[Go to page: 1,...15,16,17]

[Stromkraft]

And these days, it is so EASY to make music, especially with all the presets in the various soft synths, and the ability to control tempo - no scale practice necessary.

yeah…It still takes talent to make great music. Maybe not the exact same talent, but nevertheless.

[Airyck]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think.... "yeah, but should I still go get a pregnancy test?"

[Buleriachk]

And these days, it is so EASY to make music, especially with all the presets in the various soft synths, and the ability to control tempo - no scale practice necessary.

yeah…It still takes talent to make great music. Maybe not the exact same talent, but nevertheless.

Actually, (IMO), it takes a great deal more talent to SELL great music - more or less the same talent it takes to sell bad music ....

[TomViolenz]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think.... "yeah, but should I still go get a pregnancy test?"

ditto

[ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends]

.
.
.







.











.


































.




















.


















.



























.










.




































































































.

[ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends]

.
.
.







.











.


































.




















.


















.



























.










.




































































































.

[regretfullySaid]

Probably because she makes enough and thinks the statement is worth more.

Her benefit from doing that is actually worth more because:

1. The hype of that gives her publicity, which adds potential fans
2. Fans or not, people will support that statement by buying her music
3. She increases the respect and trust of her already loyal fanbase, increasing the chances of peripheral sales like misc and sponsor merchandise (clothes and makeup)

While having to suffer watching the AMAs the other night and watching why she earned a Dick Clark award, I saw that she's building an army. One much more diverse than the One Direction one.

Despite being a little cynical of her Oprah-ness, I gotta give her respect for pushing the Album Experience; paying for the artists material.

Off-tangent rant about album vs tour:

The whole 'You have to make most of your money by touring' argument is bullshit disrespectful for the artist who wants to invest in the story and listening experience first and foremost.
Otherwise what you're basically saying is 'forget about paying for your album, I'll pay to see you act like a monkey on stage, that's how you'll make your money'.

Let's be real. Not all artists care about touring. What they want to express and how they want to express it may be meant more as a listening experience, not just something to dance to.
Maybe it wouldn't translate well into a good stage show anyway. If you have one or 2 people making an album, maybe they'd have to go out of their way or come up with ridiculous ideas to try and entertain an audience with a stage show but really they could care less about the stage show. Why should you force the artist into a close minded one-way avenue of having to do a stage show to make money?
They wouldn't have a stage show without the music. You wouldn't be going to the show if you didn't like the music.

[TomViolenz]

Probably because she makes enough and thinks the statement is worth more.

Her benefit from doing that is actually worth more because:

1. The hype of that gives her publicity, which adds potential fans
2. Fans or not, people will support that statement by buying her music
3. She increases the respect and trust of her already loyal fanbase, increasing the chances of peripheral sales like misc and sponsor merchandise (clothes and makeup)

Except that this is not my perception of the reaction of the public at all.
Try reading the comment section of any article in the main stream media that deals with her action.

As I stated before, the selfentitlement to our works that I encounter there is quite nausiating.

While having to suffer watching the AMAs the other night and watching why she earned a Dick Clark award, I saw that she's building an army. One much more diverse than the One Direction one.

Despite being a little cynical of her Oprah-ness, I gotta give her respect for pushing the Album Experience; paying for the artists material.

Off-tangent rant about album vs tour:

The whole 'You have to make most of your money by touring' argument is bullshit disrespectful for the artist who wants to invest in the story and listening experience first and foremost.
Otherwise what you're basically saying is 'forget about paying for your album, I'll pay to see you act like a monkey on stage, that's how you'll make your money'.

Let's be real. Not all artists care about touring. What they want to express and how they want to express it may be meant more as a listening experience, not just something to dance to.
Maybe it wouldn't translate well into a good stage show anyway. If you have one or 2 people making an album, maybe they'd have to go out of their way or come up with ridiculous ideas to try and entertain an audience with a stage show but really they could care less about the stage show. Why should you force the artist into a close minded one-way avenue of having to do a stage show to make money?
They wouldn't have a stage show without the music. You wouldn't be going to the show if you didn't like the music.

Thank you!

[BaronVonAbelDong]

Not all artists care about touring. What they want to express and how they want to express it may be meant more as a listening experience, not just something to dance to.
Maybe it wouldn't translate well into a good stage show anyway.

+1

And so it's up to each artist to find a way to make it work in a way that they want to... the channels are all within reach and new ones created regularly. More than ever before.

"We’re entering a new era in history: the space between “starving artist” and “rich and famous” is beginning to collapse. YouTube has signed up over a million partners (people who agree to run ads over their videos to make money from their content). The “creative class” is no longer emerging: it’s here, now."

https://medium.com/@jackconte/pomplamoo ... 435851ba37

It's not about the losses on that one tour.


"We’re moving into a realm of small business creativity fueled by community. We’re moving into an era of patronage. We’re not out of the shadow yet, but it’s getting brighter."

http://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1070951

Random examples from people with 'realistic' starter income:

http://www.patreon.com/creation?hid=1185760

http://www.patreon.com/chrisryniak

Present it in a way that's classy rather than internet begging, could it be another way to cover your expenses and create?

Anyone here tried that site/method?

[Buleriachk]

The downside of this is that it reduces the profit in music to the lowest common denominator (the Great Unwashed). This may be a good or bad thing, depending on if your experiments are popular or not, but the GU (in the main) is often incapable of judging quality (think democracy as a political system....

[BaronVonAbelDong]

Turns out it was a bit of covert advertising anyway.

"But Jack Conte is a cofounder of Patreon - and in fact - while he's complaining about not making money on tour - his company Patreon has raised over 17 MILLION dollars from angel investors and other investors over the past year. He doesn't disclose this in the article"

http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/23/patreo ... t-content/

[TomViolenz]

Turns out it was a bit of covert advertising anyway.

"But Jack Conte is a cofounder of Patreon - and in fact - while he's complaining about not making money on tour - his company Patreon has raised over 17 MILLION dollars from angel investors and other investors over the past year. He doesn't disclose this in the article"

http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/23/patreo ... t-content/

Makes you wonder (not really ) what these Angel (HA!) investors are really investing in...

It's just another data grab guys

[Quez]

Music is a hard sell. So much of it around now, seems like people don't put so much value into it.
Needs lots of effort, talent, work, luck, community, and good connections. Probably a lot of touring doing shows in front of 5 people too.
I remember lots of interviews from classic artists from my part of the world, they always say, it was easy back then, nobody was making music, you just needed a guitar...

[eyeknow]

Bitch has all the money she needs. NBC cash alone has her set for life. Quit whining.

Now excuse me, I need to go stream kant"yay" worsts latest combination of 3 phrases.

[ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends]

.
.
.







.











.


































.




















.


















.



























.










.




































































































.