Ableton & Serato Announce...And it's FREE!

[nuxnamon]

so if it's not scratching or reversing Live's audio, what is it doing? does it just jump the transport back with no audio being output? what exactly is the point of that except for the audio just keeping in time within the mix? seems to me that the most obvious use for this would've been to keep from having to load up sample after sample to scratch. if you have an mp3 loaded as a Live clip then you can obviously already load that in Scratch and Itch. this seems to be nothing more than a sample player... at the moment.

i continue to be unexcited about this!

here is a video that shows them scratching ableton's output within serato.. it does seem like scratching but he does not do anything intricate but just a few rubs so you can't tell how accurate it is for true scratching.. and it seems like he is scratching the output of the master channel, not clips.. but I assume if you fire a single clip, it's the same and you can scratch that also.. ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCUXdXB ... r_embedded

[Hidden Driveways]

Thanks for the CDM link, Tarekith.

What you can do:
...Use ITCH or virtual vinyl to control the Live transport

So wait... I'm about to join the chorus of the "What's the point?" crowd. You can put a Live Set on a deck in Serato, and you can control Live's transport with timecode vinyl - BUT - you cannot scratch the Live Set - OR adjust the tempo with the tempo slider on your turntable? Guys... come on. Vinyl timecode control for only start & stop? Sorry, but, what's the point? Why bother? Okay, I get it, so you can integrate Live and Serato better..

BUT...

If you can't answer the question of what audio is going to come out of what output, you don't leave us with much confidence that Live and Serato are going to be easily integrated.

[Tarekith]

I think they really need to do a better job explaining and showing just what exactly this whole Bridge thing does. Other than being able to export a Scratch set as an ALS, the rest of it is still not explained very well.

[SubFunk]

I think they really need to do a better job explaining and showing just what exactly this whole Bridge thing does. Other than being able to export a Scratch set as an ALS, the rest of it is still not explained very well.

+1

[Hidden Driveways]

If The Bridge does not meld the two programs so they can share the output of the Rane or ITCH interface, then this is a bridge to nowhere.

Was Sarah Palin involved with this somehow?

[McQ714]

no reason to explain any further until it's, at least, ready for beta testing. and until then, based on what we know now... this sucks!

[SubFunk]

no reason to explain any further until it's, at least, ready for beta testing. and until then, based on what we know now... this sucks!

well, the beta seems to be still quiet a bit away...

[McQ714]

^ guess we'll have to wait then. care to keep speculating??? i don't!

[SubFunk]

^ guess we'll have to wait then. care to keep speculating??? i don't!

no i don't, what i saw so far is disappointing, but i agree with tarekith that i actually don't get much of what is going on.. other that existing serato users gain... that is why i desperately want to hardcore test drive it... but i see we need to wait... well, how long i don't know, but to me it seems to be a while... L8 bugfix and M4L have priority from what i gather... i feel a bit that it was a 'rushed' announcement again for NAMM.

[disco judas]

Looks to me like Jeff Milligan is rocking the bridge with 4 decks.

[SubFunk]

Looks to me like Jeff Milligan is rocking the bridge with 4 decks.

he he, jeffy the old sleeper (stalking me from blava to berlin... just kiddin' )... probably if serato is finally 4 decks with 2.0, now he usually does 2 via serato and two via normal records...
but is there already a release date for 2.0 ?

[baseinstinct]

so if it's not scratching or reversing Live's audio, what is it doing? does it just jump the transport back with no audio being output? what exactly is the point of that except for the audio just keeping in time within the mix? seems to me that the most obvious use for this would've been to keep from having to load up sample after sample to scratch. if you have an mp3 loaded as a Live clip then you can obviously already load that in Scratch and Itch. this seems to be nothing more than a sample player... at the moment.

Lack of reverse or scratch eliminates the designer's dilemma of how to approach tail generating effects like delay or reverb.

It looks like users simply need to narrow down the expectations - something like revert to groovebox functionality of Live 4. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[McQ714]

so if it's not scratching or reversing Live's audio, what is it doing? does it just jump the transport back with no audio being output? what exactly is the point of that except for the audio just keeping in time within the mix? seems to me that the most obvious use for this would've been to keep from having to load up sample after sample to scratch. if you have an mp3 loaded as a Live clip then you can obviously already load that in Scratch and Itch. this seems to be nothing more than a sample player... at the moment.

Lack of reverse or scratch eliminates the designer's dilemma of how to approach tail generating effects like delay or reverb.

It looks like users simply need to narrow down the expectations - something like revert to groovebox functionality of Live 4. Correct me if I'm wrong.

i don't see a dilemma. if a track is muted, do you still here the delay or reverb? Live should only playback what you would hear at that exact moment in the timeline... or is that not how it works? the problem i see is with some of these plugins that require extra latency. will those be unusable? if the two programs cannot share the SL interface, how is that latency compensated for in playback? is your laptop expected to keep up with the demands of both programs being run at a real-time processing level. i think that would make most sets almost unplayable. some of the laptops that are being used by Live users can hardly run the performance test efficiently.

[ze2be]

this seems to be nothing more than a sample player... at the moment.

Nudge!

[kazey]

@nuxnaman thats probably the best video ive seen of bridge yet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCUXdXB ... r_embedded

you can get a much better idea of the interface & how it syncs from the ableton player... that video has lifted my opinions on the bridge actually.

my main problem is the lack of waveform for ableton clips & the lack of control over ableton clips ie not having seperate control over 2 channels & if its true about the not scratching even worse...