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Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:53 pm
by davepermen
AceLuby wrote:And I went to the simple, "if I play pre-recorded music, I'm a DJ, if I'm not, I'm not". The medium hasn't mattered since the invention of the 8 track. I still haven't seen a single definition that says a disc jockey must produce music using discs. The term has evolved in the last 80 years... time to move along with the times.
i see a simple definition of dj, that tells exactly that: it's name. which is quite important, not? else, what's the name good for?
and if one uses bridge, and plays synths realtime by scratching-n-mixing the vinyl, and having some live set loaded, is it then not a dj? would not be pre-recorded music, then.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:38 am
by 7G
DJ=Disc Jockey...
CJ=CD Jockey...
VJ=Video Jockey...
PJ=Producer Jockey...
Guess you belong to the 4th category

Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:08 am
by Salty P
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:11 pm
by AceLuby
davepermen wrote:AceLuby wrote:And I went to the simple, "if I play pre-recorded music, I'm a DJ, if I'm not, I'm not". The medium hasn't mattered since the invention of the 8 track. I still haven't seen a single definition that says a disc jockey must produce music using discs. The term has evolved in the last 80 years... time to move along with the times.
i see a simple definition of dj, that tells exactly that: it's name. which is quite important, not? else, what's the name good for?
and if one uses bridge, and plays synths realtime by scratching-n-mixing the vinyl, and having some live set loaded, is it then not a dj? would not be pre-recorded music, then.
Fine, so nobody is allowed to use the term disc jockey unless they jockey discs...
So I'm going to coin the term 'Digital Jockey' starting right now and define it as anyone who plays digitally recorded music. I think I'll call them DJ's for short

Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:41 pm
by H20nly
@ Salty P - I think I feel the same way. I don't know why I keep clicking on the link. I bet moths feel this way until the porch light gets turned out.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:43 pm
by andydes
Can I use Ableton or Traktor at a disco?
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:51 pm
by outershpongolia
andydes wrote:Can I use Ableton or Traktor at a disco?
as long as you snort coke off the laptop
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:52 pm
by outershpongolia
outershpongolia wrote:andydes wrote:Can I use Ableton or Traktor at a disco?
as long as you snort coke off the laptop
and i'm talkin' high grade shit here, not that suburban bullshit the kids get.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:59 pm
by crofter
7G wrote:DJ=Disc Jockey...
CJ=CD Jockey...
VJ=Video Jockey...
PJ=Producer Jockey...
Guess you belong to the 4th category

what about sausage jockey ?
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:02 pm
by H20nly
andydes wrote:Can I use Ableton or Traktor at a disco?
You should use vinyl that was recorded to .mp3, mixed with Traktor, rendered to .wav, recorded to cassette and put in the deck. Press play. Walk away and have a beer and a
Dope
Joint. Find some ladies and get your
D J'ed. Then go have a
Denny's
Jumbo breakfast with
Diced
Jalepenos and
Drink your
Juice. get home before
Dawn
Jump starts the day. If you left your car thats okay just
Don't
Jay walk and every thing will be fine. Stay away from
Dead
Jackrabbit's and
Damn
Juveniles and remember; its okay to laugh at
Dumb
Jokes.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:03 pm
by H20nly
crofter wrote:7G wrote:DJ=Disc Jockey...
CJ=CD Jockey...
VJ=Video Jockey...
PJ=Producer Jockey...
Guess you belong to the 4th category

what about sausage jockey ?
That would be SJ. It doesn't roll off the tongue as well as the others but sausage probably shouldn't.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:05 pm
by dum
^^^ unfunny.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:10 pm
by Donnie
Bottom line: Just play however you want, because no matter what you do...someone is going to think it sucks regardless.
Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:11 pm
by davepermen
AceLuby wrote:davepermen wrote:AceLuby wrote:And I went to the simple, "if I play pre-recorded music, I'm a DJ, if I'm not, I'm not". The medium hasn't mattered since the invention of the 8 track. I still haven't seen a single definition that says a disc jockey must produce music using discs. The term has evolved in the last 80 years... time to move along with the times.
i see a simple definition of dj, that tells exactly that: it's name. which is quite important, not? else, what's the name good for?
and if one uses bridge, and plays synths realtime by scratching-n-mixing the vinyl, and having some live set loaded, is it then not a dj? would not be pre-recorded music, then.
Fine, so nobody is allowed to use the term disc jockey unless they jockey discs...
So I'm going to coin the term 'Digital Jockey' starting right now and define it as anyone who plays digitally recorded music. I think I'll call them DJ's for short

yeah, i know that fix
in general, i told people from the start i don't want the DJ in front of my name. i just don't like it. still, my first full ableton live only gig will be end of the month, and it's everywhere, again, written "DJ Davepermen". in the end, one can't get this fixed
in other news, i Propose SM, Sound Mixer, to the list of options... without any second thoughts about other meanings

Re: being accused of not being a "real DJ" with Ableton
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:12 pm
by crofter
Donnie wrote:Bottom line: Just play however you want, because no matter what you do...someone is going to think it sucks regardless.
Very wise, fuck em.