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Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:15 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Fixed.

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:17 pm
by H20nly
i voted for "Jedi mind tricks" godammit, not A!
Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:05 pm
by Steve Ballmer
H20nly wrote:i voted for "Jedi mind tricks" godammit, not A!
I think I'd make a poor dictator.
Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:23 pm
by Machinesworking
Steve Ballmer wrote:H20nly wrote:i voted for "Jedi mind tricks" godammit, not A!
I think I'd make a poor dictator.
Caligula comes to mind.

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:41 pm
by regretfullySaid
Spot on.
Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:10 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Steve: 2. you admit that your post was intentionally off-topic.
Funk: What we said were completely different things.
Good, so we agree.

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:11 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N. Furter wrote:Steve Ballmer wrote:Funk N. Furter wrote:the science of revolution
And how many peer-reviewed scientific studies have been carried in the field of revolution?

Hundreds, with dire consequences if you get it wrong.
Name one.
Re: The debate that Funk N. Furter lost
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:36 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N. Furter wrote:It was predicted to fail if it remained isolated. But there was good reason to believe a socialist revolution would spread
So now you're saying that it
wasn't predicted to fail. That's twice in two pages that you've done a 180. So not reckless then, just foolish. Got it.

Re: The debate that Funk N. Furter lost
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:12 am
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N. Furter wrote:The revolution was predicted to fail if it remained isolated. In other words, if an advanced country did not join in.
Indeed, but as you say, it was predicted that an advanced country
would join in, hence
it was predicted to succeed.
Thus, Marxism predicted the success of the revolution. And if the revolution could
prove Marxism, as you claim for reasons that defy both logic and science, then it must be also able to
disprove Marxism.
We can thus reason, by following the logic of Boy-Genius Funk N, Imperial Wizard of the Hooded Order of Marxists, that
the revolution disproved Marxism.
To sum up this incredibly simple logic, either:
1. The revolution was predicted to succeed, and Marxism is disproven, or
2. The revolution was predicted to fail, and the Marxists were a bunch of reckless idiots.
So which is it twinkletoes? Which one have you been saying for 30 years?

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:46 pm
by Steve Ballmer
3rd 180:
Funk: "The revolution was predicted to fail."
Funk: "You can't predict something like a revolution."
This is simply. Too. Easy.
Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:07 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:08 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N. Furter wrote:His plans are that only a Soviet Russia could end the war, carry out land reform, and introduce elections.
This is an opinion, not a plan. You're cracking.

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:18 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N. Furter wrote:Anything is easy when your debating consists of cherrypicking. But it means nothing.
I'm simply asking you to defend your claims, yet whenever you try, you systematically change what you are saying. This is called "running from the debate". Incidentally, according to Trotksy's text on A=!A, your distinction between
is and
is equal to is fallacious, and your attempts to explain that things can
be and
be equal to themselves for "an instant" makes you a sophist. His word, not mine.
So, according to the "fucking genius" Trotsky, you're a fallacious sophist. Seems about right, albeit a little superfluous.

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:27 pm
by Steve Ballmer
Funk N wrote:Hey look everybody, I don't know how to answer a simple question without posting strings of off-topic quotes!

Re: "Marxists are clueless" (Funk N. Furter)
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:35 pm
by Mint Invader
Can we just have a no holds bar cage match out in international waters and settle this once and for allski.