Logic 8 finally released! NO JOKE THIS TIME!

tadx · Post by **tadx** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:45 am

EXS24 sampler, ES2, Ultrabeat and Guitar Amp Pro are included in Logic Express...

orgul · Post by **orgul** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:03 pm

the point that logic 8 will not have a usb key (just keyprotection) is a nice starting point for conspiracy theories...

yes it is more user friendly this way!
but couln't it also be part of the strategy to gain major % on the daw market...

- logic 7 user will upgrade

- a big amount of people will buy it because it is cheap

- the notorious "crackheads", and those with very little income (no more educational version...), or the not convinced "testers" will get the torrent. this will not hurt apple too much. ipods are generating the money anyway...

Homebelly · Post by **Homebelly** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:06 pm

orgul wrote:the point that logic 8 will not have a usb key (just keyprotection) is a nice starting point for conspiracy theories...

yes it is more user friendly this way!
but couln't it also be part of the strategy to gain major % on the daw market...

- logic 7 user will upgrade

- a big amount of people will buy it because it is cheap

- the notorious "crackheads", and those with very little income (no more educational version...), or the not convinced "testers" will get the torrent. this will not hurt apple too much. ipods are generating the money anyway...

what would alex jones make of this

?

orgul · Post by **orgul** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:14 pm

[/quote]what would alex jones make of this

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maybee an article for usa today....lol.... no, i guess no one really cares...

it is not a big secret that the "hacking community" has been instrumentalised by enterprises. but that is a different topic.

but on a more seroius basis. why was logic express just key-protected and logic pro usb? For shure not because the implementation in express would have been too expensive. Logic Express was a nice test app for potential logic pro buyers...

towards companies like ableton that have to generate all their money with the software product this is really "guerilla" marketing...

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:24 pm

Not wanting to wade through 15 pages, did anyone notice that you can use the Apple remote to control functions in L8 too? ...now that's a hot little feature right there.

wildstyle7272 · Post by **wildstyle7272** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:33 pm

sqook wrote:
Homebelly wrote:
sqook wrote: Also missing (still) is the EXS24, Ultrabeat, ES2, and guitar amp modeller.

Still a good deal for 199$, but those in the know will probably stick to the full version.
Nope!!,,
It's all there,,,
Well, I'll be damned..

just order my express off of ebay express will be the big winner
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LOGIC-EXPRESS-8 ... dZViewItem

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:56 pm

muthafunka wrote:Not wanting to wade through 15 pages, did anyone notice that you can use the Apple remote to control functions in L8 too? ...now that's a hot little feature right there.

Pretty cool for sure.

jeskola · Post by **jeskola** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 pm

Just read this on another forum.

To all Logic Pro 7 customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from Logic Pro 7 customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of Logic by $500 three years after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of Logic Studio from $1000 to $500, and that now is the right time to do it. Logic is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. Logic is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every Logic user to get as many new customers as possible in the Logic 'tent'. We strongly believe the $500 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of Logic, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early Logic customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every Logic Pro 7 customer who purchased Logic Pro 7 from Apple and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued Logic customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO

Musicsoul · Post by **Musicsoul** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 pm

Yes it will be Live to create music and logic express to mix it all, very nice combo

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 pm

chrysalis33rpm wrote:
LOFA wrote:
RobertX wrote: As someone who has a day job at a prepress company, I can identify with that. Great analogy.
Sincere question: Where would indesign fit into this equation?
Answer: In Design is a page layout program, capable of handling book or magazine layouts in professional print resolution.

Illustrator or Photoshop start to choke on more than a few pages, because their focus is on the quality of the display.

Also, In Design is much more suited to using large blocks of text than the others.

Its the difference between an artist's studio and a publishers office.

I get the metaphor and I know indesign. I Just couldn't for the life of me figure out which audio app would serve this "parallel" function...

Daurix · Post by **Daurix** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:37 pm

Angstrom wrote:
noisetonepause wrote: OK.
So when will I have the looper?
I'm pretty sure that Ableton will include a looper device in Live7. Looping is one of the main things Live users do so they'd be pretty daft not to.
I'm waiting for the Ableton one myself, mine is OKish - but I'd prefer to use an Abeleton integrated looper.

I would hope so... I still think it would be awfully clever of the OVR button could be used on Audio clips as well as MIDI clips, but maybe that's just me...

The new Virtual Repearter software from Electrix looks pretty cool too..

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:47 pm

cmusicmaker wrote: Hi HQ...the web is a small place eh?

Nice to see you in these parts!

Maybe...but one thing is for sure Ableton IMO shold review their pricing of Live + insturments...I somehow doubt they can afford to do that but might for a limited time.

For sure. Not being a Mac owner, this is the main point of interest for me in terms of the Logic announcement. It's a super-agressive move on their part, and personally I'm not sure they have the motivation to specifically focus on Logic (i.e. I think it's not much more than a carrot).

But the knock on effect could send some shock waves.

Ableton have appeared very astute businessmen up to now. I'm sure they will work out their response carefully, reflecting on the market as it changes in the months ahead.

kenporter · Post by **kenporter** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:24 pm

jeskola wrote:Just read this on another forum.

To all Logic Pro 7 customers:

I have received hundreds of emails from Logic Pro 7 customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of Logic by $500 three years after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of Logic Studio from $1000 to $500, and that now is the right time to do it. Logic is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. Logic is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every Logic user to get as many new customers as possible in the Logic 'tent'. We strongly believe the $500 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of Logic, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early Logic customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every Logic Pro 7 customer who purchased Logic Pro 7 from Apple and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued Logic customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO

LOL, I am pretty sure this is fake or meant as a joke, since this is almost the same wording he used for his open letter to iPhone users. Somebody just changed it to Logic.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/

Ken

mickey disco · Post by **mickey disco** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:25 pm

further to the comments about logic express, it appears that you can now run external AU's in there as well

(at least if i've understood correctly). If so, that's fantastic !!!!

when is this coming out in the UK? i can't find it in the apple UK store yet

nate_D · Post by **nate_D** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:49 pm

Homebelly wrote:
orgul wrote:the point that logic 8 will not have a usb key (just keyprotection) is a nice starting point for conspiracy theories...

yes it is more user friendly this way!
but couln't it also be part of the strategy to gain major % on the daw market...

- logic 7 user will upgrade

- a big amount of people will buy it because it is cheap

- the notorious "crackheads", and those with very little income (no more educational version...), or the not convinced "testers" will get the torrent. this will not hurt apple too much. ipods are generating the money anyway...
what would alex jones make of this ?

bill gates and steve jobs are skull and bones! j/k

but what if...