Obama wins, Dems will crush the weak-ass republicans cuz...

lesterdiamond · Post by **lesterdiamond** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:19 am

Grifter wrote:Yeah I sorta see what you mean, electing a new pleb like any other country which is a sold out waste of space will really make a difference

somebody is jealous

deva · Post by **deva** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:14 am

Tone Deft wrote: saw some Fox footage where they cut to a helicopter shot, announcing 'we have news that a Critical Mass protest is happening at the Convention site.' the helicopter panned around, no critical mass in site, barely a car let alone a bike. failarious.

The police raids on peoples houses and at the main gathering center are pretty crazy. Rather heavy repression...

j2j · Post by **j2j** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:43 am

Oppression...

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b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:28 am

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Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:28 am

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forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:40 am

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH!

Palin's teen daughter is pregnant

it always happens to the most self righteous

dysanfel · Post by **dysanfel** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:41 am

Everyone from Europe who is not familiar with how US elections work, I suggest you go to http://www.270towin.com and see how the electoral map is working against Obama. Obama will lose in Florida, and if he loses Ohio as Gore and Kerry did McCain will be President. I urge you to look at the Gore and Kerry loses and see the uphill battle Obama will have.

I am voting for Obama, but I do not expect him to win. Remember, it only takes 51% of the vote in 11 states to be president of the US.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:44 am

dysanfel wrote:Everyone from Europe who is not familiar with how US elections work, I suggest you go to http://www.270towin.com and see how the electoral map is working against Obama. Obama will lose in Florida, and if he loses Ohio as Gore and Kerry did McCain will be President. I urge you to look at the Gore and Kerry loses and see the uphill battle Obama will have.

I am voting for Obama, but I do not expect him to win. Remember, it only takes 51% of the vote in 11 states to be president of the US.

I'm not sure how that thing works, but here's what I saw:

Probability of Reaching 270
Democrats 84%
Republicans 14%
Neither (Tie) 2%

EDIT: I'm quite interested to know how it works though - how are you coming to that conclusion when what I'm looking at looks so heavily weighed in Obama's favour - does it tell you anywhere which are most likely of the swing states to go either way?

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:35 am

my god - Bush never ceases to amaze me

regarding the mass evacuation of NO:

President George W. Bush , taking a more hands-on role after suffering a political pummeling over the botched federal response to Katrina, said: "I feel good about this event."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/4980566

I guess the truly amazing thing though is that all the news about it Ive seen here is about new Orleans, yet:

The monster storm, which killed more than 80 people in the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Jamaica, slammed ashore Monday morning as a Category Two hurricane packing winds of 110 miles (175 kilometers) per hour.

is just 1 small paragraph

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:59 am

forge wrote:my god - Bush never ceases to amaze me

regarding the mass evacuation of NO:

President George W. Bush , taking a more hands-on role after suffering a political pummeling over the botched federal response to Katrina, said: "I feel good about this event."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/4980566

Whenit comes to improv & reacting in the moment without a script, the man is an utter dolt. I bet his handlers HATE him!

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:12 am

@forge
and you never amaze me.
constantly sponging whatever sympathetic rhetoric is fashionable from flimsy media outlets and regurgitating that shite here.

ANYWAYS - what bush REALLY said, if you saw him fucking speak unedited, is that regarding the emergency response units and how prepared they are to deal with gustav and the aftermath...HE FEELS GOOD. ..... you ignoramus. he doesn't feel good about the storm itself. as if that wasn't obvious, for fuck sake.

and by the way, the paragraph you quoted isn't there any more (if it was even there in the first place). Instead it reads thusly:

President George W. Bush took a more hands-on role after suffering a political pummeling over the botched federal response to Katrina, which killed some 1,800 people and left hundreds of thousands homeless.

"The coordination on this storm is a lot better than during Katrina," he said during a visit to Austin, Texas to oversee relief preparations.

forge wrote:my god - Bush never ceases to amaze me

regarding the mass evacuation of NO:

President George W. Bush , taking a more hands-on role after suffering a political pummeling over the botched federal response to Katrina, said: "I feel good about this event."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/4980566

I guess the truly amazing thing though is that all the news about it Ive seen here is about new Orleans, yet:

The monster storm, which killed more than 80 people in the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Jamaica, slammed ashore Monday morning as a Category Two hurricane packing winds of 110 miles (175 kilometers) per hour.
is just 1 small paragraph

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:14 am

oblique strategies wrote:
President George W. Bush , taking a more hands-on role after suffering a political pummeling over the botched federal response to Katrina, said: "I feel good about this event."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/4980566
Whenit comes to improv & reacting in the moment without a script, the man is an utter dolt. I bet his handlers HATE him!

.... you've been misled by an ignoramus.

dysanfel · Post by **dysanfel** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:40 pm

forge wrote:
dysanfel wrote:Everyone from Europe who is not familiar with how US elections work, I suggest you go to http://www.270towin.com and see how the electoral map is working against Obama. Obama will lose in Florida, and if he loses Ohio as Gore and Kerry did McCain will be President. I urge you to look at the Gore and Kerry loses and see the uphill battle Obama will have.

I am voting for Obama, but I do not expect him to win. Remember, it only takes 51% of the vote in 11 states to be president of the US.
I'm not sure how that thing works, but here's what I saw:

Probability of Reaching 270
Democrats 84%
Republicans 14%
Neither (Tie) 2%

EDIT: I'm quite interested to know how it works though - how are you coming to that conclusion when what I'm looking at looks so heavily weighed in Obama's favour - does it tell you anywhere which are most likely of the swing states to go either way?

Notice I am giving Obama Colorado, New Mexico, and New Hampshire. And even those states are not a given. Obama loses Ohio and he loses the election.

2000

2004

2008...my prediction

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:47 pm

dysanfel wrote: 2008...my prediction

but how did you come to that? the landscape seems pretty different to 2004 - there was a landslide in the 2006 house elections, now there is recession and frequent talk of Bush being the worst president in history, increasingly unpopular, while McCain is already 72 years old Obama is apparently getting huge support

plus personality wise, Obama and Kerry are in a different league

I'm not understanding the criteria you're judging it on- if it's based on results in 2000 or 2004 that seems like it wouldn't make sense

dysanfel · Post by **dysanfel** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:02 pm

forge wrote:
dysanfel wrote: 2008...my prediction
but how did you come to that? the landscape seems pretty different to 2004 - there was a landslide in the 2006 house elections, now there is recession and frequent talk of Bush being the worst president in history, increasingly unpopular, while McCain is already 72 years old Obama is apparently getting huge support

plus personality wise, Obama and Kerry are in a different league

I'm not understanding the criteria you're judging it on- if it's based on results in 2000 or 2004 that seems like it wouldn't make sense

I looked how wide of a win the Republicans has in certain states. Other states have long traditions of voting one way. For instance, Virgina has gone Republican for over 40 years. Other states Bush beat Kerry by large margins. To think Obama can magically turn around this is absurd. The Republicans are far too organized for this.

My sources came from a book called The Election of 2004 which is an academic break down of the vote. This was the book I used in college when completing my political science degree.

http://www.amazon.com/Elections-2004-Ye ... 510&sr=8-8

Not to mention the smear and fear campaigns that will begin in October. I remember the swastikas over Kerry signs and the rumors about Kerry suspending the constitution and taking away everyone's bibles and guns. Those fears were real, especially in the racist south.