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Forge. wrote:I don't think you're being honest here. You have definitely said things targeting actual American people for a long time now - i..e "fat and brainwashed" etc etc...

"fat and brainwashed" haha

Sorry, americans haha ("fat and brainwashed" haha ).
Now we've found the real answer. It is not because of napalm. It is because they are "fat" haha

... the "jungle" was full of pies, apparently

"Cars have made us lazy. The more we use them the more we cannot fathom traveling without them. One survey suggests the extent of psychological dependence is extreme. An average American is only willing to walk about a quarter mile and in some instances (such as errands) only 400 feet. Otherwise, Homo Automotivis takes the car.”

Book Title: “Stop Signs — Cars and Capitalism on the road to economic, social and ecological decay.”
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y74XX0

I have certainly seen this behaviour in Australia. People will go to one shop, then drive 100m (328 feet) up the road to another.

Thankfully Marx has since been discredited as "a little bitch".

Funk N. Furter wrote:
To be fair, Americans are fat and brainwashed. That's just as simple fact. Nobody can argue that Americans are not fat. America has the highest obesity rate in the world.

And of course they are brainwashed. That's the job of the media, schools and so on. Marx famously said that the ruling ideology is always the ideology of the ruling class. He was right. Why else would workers vote for a government that is going to take money off them and hand it to the rich? You have to be pumped full of ideas that are not ones you would work out for yourself. This comes from the media.

And the English are brainwashed alcoholics. Why should anyone listen to us?

It's not surprising you and myrnova has noticed Americans being touchy about criticism. You are just fucking rude about them.

andydes wrote:

Funk N. Furter wrote:
To be fair, Americans are fat and brainwashed. That's just as simple fact. Nobody can argue that Americans are not fat. America has the highest obesity rate in the world.

And of course they are brainwashed. That's the job of the media, schools and so on. Marx famously said that the ruling ideology is always the ideology of the ruling class. He was right. Why else would workers vote for a government that is going to take money off them and hand it to the rich? You have to be pumped full of ideas that are not ones you would work out for yourself. This comes from the media.

And the English are brainwashed alcoholics. Why should anyone listen to us?

It's not surprising you and myrnova has noticed Americans being touchy about criticism. You are just fucking rude about them.

are you brainwashed or fat? Or both?!

Sorry, I did not mean to be rude, haha. It's just those definition of americans made by Forge was funny and made me laugh haha It is like someone said... i don't know... "you told italians are all dfarfs, noisy and have black moustache...and women have a forest under armpits... something like this haha

Funk N. Furter wrote:
I don't really agree here Forge, I've noticed what myrnova is saying on here from time to time, and on other forums too, when I used to be into politics. The Americans do seem to be more touchy than anyone else about criticism of the country they live in, which is invariably criticism of the foreign policy of the ruling elite.

I'm sure you could find some evidence via opinion polls etc. Myrnova is just going off gut instinct but he/she is right from what I've seen.

If Germans acted like Americans we would be dreading the rise of the Fourth Reich.

You noticed that, but you haven't noticed that Myrnova writes something about Americans in almost every post he ever makes? Just like you write something about Marx in almost every post you ever make.

If I thought it was people being too over-sensitive I would say so, and i don't think anyone really takes any of it that seriously so it's not that big a deal really, but he most definitely goes out of his way specifically to wind people up.

andydes wrote:
It's not surprising you and myrnova has noticed Americans being touchy about criticism. You are just fucking rude about them.

this.

I suggest a thread called "Fat brainwashed Americans should listen to Karl Marx" and the two of them can have at each other in an endless spiral of self satisfaction.

myrnova wrote:
Sorry, I did not mean to be rude, haha. It's just those definition of americans made by Forge was funny and made me laugh haha It is like someone said... i don't know... "you told italians are all dfarfs, noisy and have black moustache...and women have a forest under armpits... something like this haha

the lack of insight is amazing. I was directly quoting you. And not just once, but many, many hundreds of times.

Okay, I just did a search to clarify and I guess I stand corrected, the only two times you specifically used the word "fat" was in this thread, and you were quoting me, so fair's fair.

But the word "american*" (with the asterisk so it catches the plural and singular) came up against your name 117 times, and you can have a quick click through to get the general tone of all of those posts and see that almost all of them say exactly the same thing more or less.

search.php?keywords=american*&terms=all ... mit=Search

Out of a post count of 1274 that's roughly 10% of all of your posts.

Then I searched for the same as your other incarnation 9v and you got 118 out of only 1083 posts
search.php?keywords=american*&terms=all ... mit=Search

I think 10% does indicate a fixation of some description, and anyone who skims through that lot and doesn't see any deliberate provocation should check their social skills.

Forge. wrote:Okay, I just did a search to clarify and I guess I stand corrected, the only two times you specifically used the word "fat" was in this thread.

But the word "american*" with the asterisk so it catches the plural and singular and it came up against your name 117 times, and you can have a quick click through to get the general tone of all of those posts and see that almost all of them say exactly the same thing more or less.

Out of a post count of 1274 that's roughly 10% of all of your posts.

search.php?keywords=american*&terms=all ... mit=Search

Then I searched for the same as your other incarnation 9v and you got 118 out of only 1083 posts
search.php?keywords=american*&terms=all ... mit=Search

ahah you are my preferred biographist
by the way, your definition of "americans" (or what you think I called americans, or whatever) is very funny It is like one discussing about china arrogant policy, lack of freedom in china and crimes in Tibet and you come out arguing "it's bad, you cannot call chinese people yellow and dogs-eaters"... something like this. Sorry for being "misunderstood", but I never talked about U.S.A. in terms of "a mass of fat brainwashed idiots" or something. Not my style.

For the rest, as already said, it is not my fault if whatever crime or disaster in this world the U.S.A. are involved: you talk about environment? U.S.A. are the main responsable of the disaster. You talk about crimes against humanity? U.S.A. You talk about spied and controlled people's privacy? U.S.A. Pseudonazi propaganda and brainwashing? U.S.A. War, terrorism? U.S.A. Slavery? U.S.A. Torture? U.S.A. Racism? U.S.A. Death Penalty? U.S.A. Capitalism? U.S.A. etc. etc. etc.

you are trolling is all I'm saying. Don't start complaining that people take offense when you spend that much of your time deliberately trying to wind them up.

Like an irritating dog that won't stop barking.

You're even way ahead of Funken's mentions of Marx

his number is roughly the same at 106, but out of over 8000 posts the percentage is way less.

search.php?keywords=marx*&terms=all&aut ... mit=Search

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