b0unce wrote:First, and foremost, this is an international forum kids. Yes thats right, your domestic problems are not OUR domestic problems. Your foreign policies ARE our domestic problems, however. Take your fucking whinging to the local forum, someone should setup a candle light vigil thread for you. Or, hammer it out here if you like, but go fuck yourself if you think we should be as shocked as you, I will righteously comment on your perverse values here.
Machinesworking wrote:
Never answered this... because I do not see myself or the 33 dead as "american", or make any distinction at all about the location of the school etc.
Sad fact is people starve to death and get killed in war every day. I do see the irony of 33 lives being given more attention than dead in Iraq, but the sad fact is we expect people to die in war.
its not ironic, its perverse. You dont make a distinction about the school ? Good for you. I do. I see what a song and dance you're media has made out of it -perverse isnt strong enough a word. I seen what a song and dance your media made out of that imus/nappy headed hoe horse shit....because it spills over to this forum. And after that, its easy for me to go check out
your media to see what you fat bastards are fixating on while your tax dollar is raping and pillaging abroad.
Machinesworking wrote:
I was more upset about the Russian school kids who died in that Beslan school hostage crisis than all the people who died during the Chechnyin war simply because it was tragic that they were no involved in the conflict, and were forced into it.
This is similar to what has happened to Iraq to a degree, but it's just not as shocking when soldiers and insurgents kill people in the wake of their fighting, it's shocking when people target them on purpose with intent to kill them in particular.
...its shocking when people target them on purpose with intent to kill them in particular ?....LOL...what the fuck are you talking about. I can assure you, your soldiers and thugs for hire arent killing people by accident. And you're funding it. But no, thats not ironic...and its expected....you want the 'tragic' story line, with the macabre piano piece in the background...with highschool pictures of those who died and brief eulogy's summing up what they
could have been....makes me fucking wretch.
Machinesworking wrote:
Sorry your media is using it as camouflage to cover up your own stories
haha - the cherry on top. MY media is NOT using it as camouflage you presumptuous dog, this cliched storyline is getting as much airtime as it deserves. Approx a 2 minute segment on the news, a two page spread on the papers. I refer to the comment I opened this post with, this is an international forum....not an american one. I repeat - This horseshit story has spilled over from your media into the forum, just like that inane imus/nappy headed hoe crap, Its easy for me to go and check what your media is making a song and dance about this time around, via the powers of the interweb - or check out a buddies satellite TV and tune into your media circus. And its totally within context for me to talk about the atrocities commited DAILY by and for your tax dollar. You still cant fathom that, maybe you never will.
Machinesworking wrote:
, but seriously if 33 students were killed in Ireland I certainly wouldn't be talking about your countries foreign policy or war efforts, it's just not the same thing at all.
right...so if my media virtually ignored the fact my country is killing hundreds of thousands in the pursuit of political dominanation, soldiers murdering in cold blood, families torn apart, birth defects due to the munitions I pay for, generations of suffering and oppression, economic blackmail...etc etc. You'd actually think its 'more upsetting' if a scitzophrenic shot up his classmates in dublin ?.... OK then. good for you, I guess ? thats not my value system, and never will be.
Machinesworking wrote:
I don't think every american is responsible for the war in Iraq, just like I'm sure you're not responsible for IRA attacks against civilians because you're Irish. It's ethnocentric laziness IMO.
the current war in iraq is just a chapter in the ongoing book of american foreign policy. its symptomatic of what you're all about, collectively as a nation. Half of you are all for it, the other half is impotent through a mix of self-delusion, self-pity, irresponsibility, cowardice...fear perhaps ? You can always leave, and at least you wont contribute towards financing the monster. Thats not been forbidden. Get out of that system. You cant live in it and expect to be viewed as innocent, not for all this time. Someday will you hang your head in shame like the germans did post-hitler ? You need to
take responsibility before someone
makes you responsible. Or get. the. fuck. out.
or, and this is the best bit, take your whinging domestic issues to the local forum if you cant stand the criticism you receive here, which you feel is out of context.