Giving up drugs - it's easy!

[JuanSOLO]

I said I partially agreed with one of your statements in my first post.
For you to say anyone on this thread I'd not making since is like the pot calling the kettle black.
No one needs to re quote you to reveal your contradictions,
It just amusing when they do.

I'm not struggling to quit smoking,
So why would I read a book about how to make it easy.


I waste time on this thread for the same reason I would watch a train wreck.

[JuanSOLO]

Yes I am being honest.

Like many who struggle with addiction, I realize the drugs are a small symptom of core personality problems.
And I have read some inspiring things along the way.
Personally I never considered anything a quick fix.

Allan Carr may have sold millions of books, and many may have claimed success.
Yet I doubt any ones keeping tabs on millions of success stories and proving their truth.

I know few sure that something as tricky as addiction makes people desperate for a quick and certain solution.
I have seen very few find it to be quick.

[Machinesworking]

Yes, and people who give up via the willpower method spend the rest of their lives in misery, missing the alcohol.

Total garbage, and this is why you saying you're here just to help people with your method is a lie.
You cannot in any way shape or form attest to the accuracy of this statement, yet you blithely make it.
Don't bother coming back with quotes from individual people, every method has it's failures, including yours.

Your message here is not that your method works very well, but that it's the BEST, which is patently the domain of the newbie, the barely sober, the freshly indoctrinated devotee. That's why I asked you directly how much time you had, it's blatantly obvious that you have none. You're going to take this badly I assume, but hopefully if you're lucky and have the willpower and strength of conviction that you say your method brings you will look back on this thread ten years from now and be deeply embarrassed by how naive you were.

The main reason why you're failing so miserably to convince anyone of the greatness of your method is pretty simple really.
You're speaking in absolutes like the above quote. You give practically no credit to any other method of recovery, and you can't seem to grasp that it pisses people off? Again this is all the domain of the newly 'cured'. It's not anything rare, most new converts to AA or jesus or whatever method they've used to stay sober are the worst sort of advocates for their new found sobriety. The most likely to tell other people how to get sober, and always they have less than a year themselves.

[stringtapper]

funken can you give the abbreviated version of Carr's method? Just the basics to get us up and running quickly?

See, I don't want to read the book or learn any theory or anything. I just want results right now.

Can you do that for me? Maybe make a tutorial about it? And then post a link to it in your sig? Please?

[H20nly]

funken can you give the abbreviated version of Carr's method? Just the basics to get us up and running quickly?

See, I don't want to read the book or learn any theory or anything. I just want results right now.

Can you do that for me? Maybe make a tutorial about it? And then post a link to it in your sig? Please?

also, could we get some more statistics on the 51% and the 49%.

what percentage of them are men?
what percentage are women?
what percentage are LGBT and attend parades?
what percentage of them were so high when they read the book that they don't remember it?
what percentage of them sniff glue or paint thinner?
what percentage of them post on seriousstuff.org
what percentage of the ones that post on serioustuff.org are in each country/state/county?
what percentage of the ones that post on serioustuff.org logged in today?
what percentage of the ones that post on serioustuff.org have decided to leave the forum?

that sort of thing.

thanks.

[stringtapper]

funken can you give the abbreviated version of Carr's method? Just the basics to get us up and running quickly?

See, I don't want to read the book or learn any theory or anything. I just want results right now.

Can you do that for me? Maybe make a tutorial about it? And then post a link to it in your sig? Please?

Oh, Strapper, are you feeling like you're falling behind in the dickhead of the year championship? Don't worry, my little weird friend, your advocacy of eliminating the whole human race keeps you right up there with a fighting chance.

So is that a "no"?

[H20nly]

That's why I asked you directly how much time you had, it's blatantly obvious that you have none.

10 years off weed, 3 years 4 months without a fag. Piece of piss. Have you read the thread?

uh yeah MW have you even read the thread?!? he has said this many times. many many many.

also he quit drinking like 9 days ago. if you were going to make him repeat that then there was gonna be trouble... like a long post with at least a half dozen choice quotes in it! tighten up!

please don't make him repeat himself. he really doesn't like repeating himself.*




*copying and pasting is totally ok though.

[scott nathaniel]

funken can you give the abbreviated version of Carr's method? Just the basics to get us up and running quickly?

See, I don't want to read the book or learn any theory or anything. I just want results right now.

Can you do that for me? Maybe make a tutorial about it? And then post a link to it in your sig? Please?

Cliff notes to Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking: Join the Millions Who Have Become Non-Smokers Using Allen Carr's Easy Way Method"

[stringtapper]

In late July 2006 it was revealed that he had been diagnosed with lung cancer at the age of 71.[8] The following month he revealed that it was terminal and his life expectancy was about nine months.[9] Carr said: "Since I smoked my final cigarette, 23 years ago, I have been the happiest man in the world. I still feel the same way today.” Carr wrote to Tony Blair, urging the UK Government and NHS to accept his method, saying that the “powerful influence” of lobbyists working for nicotine replacement firms had turned them against him.

Carr died as a result of his lung cancer on 29 November 2006 at his home near Málaga, Spain.[1]

Reminds of one of the titles from the George Carlin Book Club skit:

"Eat, Run, Stay Fit, and Die Anyway"

[beats me]

I can accurately summarize the book. It’s repeating “this is a stupid, filthy habit that I won’t let control me” to yourself over and over and over. That’s it.

On the note of fixing problems simply by telling yourself something, if you all realize that funken is the son of a preacher then his holier than thou “I’m here to help, but my path is the only path to salvation” mentality on just about every subject makes a lot of sense.

[H20nly]

It takes 4 hours

so you could take your first big dose of heroin and be cured of the addiction before it wears off.

[scott nathaniel]

It takes 4 hours

so you could take your first big dose of heroin and be cured of the addiction before it wears off.

Would one realistically become addicted after their first big dose of heroin? You can quip better than this, come on! This is serious shit!

[JuanSOLO]

Many of the reviews of this magic book, even the 5 star reviews, read like this.

5 stars
"Let's be honest. Reading this book will not stop your nicotine addiction. That takes time, willpower and sometimes medication. For me it took all three, but this book was the catalyst for quitting in the first place, and I haven't touched a cigarette in two years."

5 stars
"Bought this for my friends who are a 2 pack a day each couple and hate to watch them slowly die...Well, he and wife didn't stop completely but no longer smoke in the house...does that count???"

5 stars
"I'd dropped enough money on other ways to try and quit smoking, so I figured what could $12 more hurt? It took me a while to read it (I was afraid I'd have to quit when I got to the end), but I did eventually finish. It wasn't magic, it was just a different points of view. I was able to look at quitting from a different angle (and learned some things about nicotine withdrawal), and it was enough that when I was ready, I quit. I wasn't hateful, angry or crazy or any of that. This won't help if you really don't have a desire to quit, but if you do have that desire, give it a try. Read it with an open mind, and see what happens. Worst case, you lost about $12.

I have "quit" a number of times, but this time feels pretty good. It feels calm. I sometimes think about smoking, but I don't want to take it back up."

5 stars
"Quitting smoking is NOT easy. I don't believe anyone who says otherwise. That said, this book did give me the tools I needed to quit finally, after smoking a pack a day for 20 or so years. That is truly a miracle in my mind. Thank you Allen Carr, you've saved my life (or greatly extended it). No they didn't pay me to say that. This book is the real deal."

3 stars
"I understand the theory behind the 'Easyway', and I like the lack of scare tactics. I don't know about other people that want to quit, but I'm good at scaring myself just fine, so that was a nice relief. But the section where Mr. Carr explains that there are no physical withdrawal symptoms other than the occasional 'pang' of wanting to smoke is just plain false. I don't understand how exactly he himself managed that or if it is even true, but in my case I dealt with a massive headache, soreness, was tired enough to just want nothing more than to sleep...but my lungs felt fine. Unfortunately I only lasted just under 48 hours this time. This is the third reading of the book that I've tried, and I personally get the same horrible withdrawal symptoms each time I try to stop. I'm glad this works for many people, but I have to think there are also quite a few people in the same position I'm in. I would very much like to stop, I agree with everything the book says, but when I actually go through with it, the physical issues are there. And they're real. I haven't a clue as to how to fix that besides ride it out, and I already deal with anxiety/panic disorder, so riding it out is quite difficult to me. Rest assured I will keep trying, and one of those tries will have to stick. I want to be a non-smoker as much as anyone else, it's just not working. I don't blame the book, but as I said, I think a bit of it is misinformation. Possibly the hypnotherapist he mentions at the beginning had something to do with his lack of withdrawal symptoms? Unfortunately, we'll never really know."


So why have clinics if the book is all you need
Why have seminars if all you need is the book
Why have courses and programs
Why in the hell would anyone call a commitment to choose consistently a 'cure'

They call it a fucking cure because addicts are looking for an "easy way"
It's the spoonful of sugar approach.
Tell people what they want to hear and get their attention because the blunt truth will scare them off.
The blunt truth being, individuals are responsible for the decisions they make.
If you created a bad habbit for yourself, it's your fucking fault, and if you wanna change your bad habits you will have to commit to creating a new habit that involves discipline, open mindedness, maintain a willingness to change, and a bounce back attitude if you fall short. It helps to change your environment, like dont go outside hand hang with the smokers to test your abilities to retreat from temptation.

You sell yourself short for not owning your own choice, you give your power away by holding the book solely responsible.
Reading a self help book is mearly inspiration for those interested in the subject.
If you jive with it, it resonates, you feel gung ho,
most importantly you feel hopeful.

So I am not saying the book is bad,
I'm just saying the alluring lingo (i.e Easy Way Cure) is advertisement trickery, I'm not saying that doesn't "work" for some, but call it what it is.

It's kind of like coming to this forum to "help" where there is a lot of help from a vast amount of people.
And instead of actually comprehending the OP, then offering sound advise
You offer a simple diluted solution, come to my blog I have the cure.

Your brand of help slightly divides the potency of a strong community in a desperate attempt need to feel validated while riding the coattails of a bigger and better resource.

It's disgusting.,

[regretfullySaid]

[scott nathaniel]

In late July 2006 it was revealed that he had been diagnosed with lung cancer at the age of 71.[8] The following month he revealed that it was terminal and his life expectancy was about nine months.[9] Carr said: "Since I smoked my final cigarette, 23 years ago, I have been the happiest man in the world. I still feel the same way today.” Carr wrote to Tony Blair, urging the UK Government and NHS to accept his method, saying that the “powerful influence” of lobbyists working for nicotine replacement firms had turned them against him.

Carr died as a result of his lung cancer on 29 November 2006 at his home near Málaga, Spain.[1]

Reminds of one of the titles from the George Carlin Book Club skit:

"Eat, Run, Stay Fit, and Die Anyway"

In fact after he himself quit, he spent many years in smoke filled rooms helping people quit. In his clinics, you keep on smoking until the end. You can see that in one of the videos I posted which shows one of the sessions in a documentary.

You seem to be defending the method more than you are the intention and result of the method. Please clarify.