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Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:49 am
by DrXparaMental
fishmonkey wrote:DrX, maybe you should try reading the whole thread again...

you keep talking like you've substantiated some grand theory, when in fact all you've done is post a few links to some arguably heavily biased websites...

whenever your sources are questioned, you choose to ignore the actual substantive criticism, and instead throw childish insults around...

since you haven't provided any credible (i.e. demonstrably unbiased) research, it is only logical to conclude that you share the views of the creators of the websites that you have referenced... is that all you've got?

i have no problem with you having a strong opinion, but so far you've done an awful job of defending it... all you've done is make yourself look like an extremely unpleasant dogmatist...
Since you are a self proclaimed judge of what is and what is not credible. I suggest you read my next post and get back with me. Illegal immigration DOES NOT FUCKING WORK. Got that?

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:07 pm
by DrXparaMental
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0924129/

Last night I watched a movie that up until I watched it,had no clue what the movie was about or even it's basic theme. Just rented because it had Harrison Ford in it and that's it. I HIGHLY suggest that anyone considering the illegal immigration issue watch this movie. It's written from about 5 completely unique perspectives and is absolute and unquestionable proof that within the present US immigration system as related to the systematic means and ends of operations that it implements, illegal immigration DOES NOT WORK. Get a clue peps. It could NOT be made any clearer. I don't give a rats ass if you are the biggest bleeding heart liberal on the face of the planet, whether you yourself are an illegal immigrant (most likely using Ableton Live without a legitimate license to begin with (dirt bag))or whether you are some neo post modern hippie screaming give ignorance a chance, all your thoughts in action are rolled up into one big conclusion in this film. You and those whom you support are doing YOURSELVES, YOUR CULTURE & ETHNIC ORIGIN & THE LEGITIMATE CITIZENRY of the United States a MAJOR DISSERVICE.

Time to walk the fuck up people. Try looking at the real (big) picture and forget about your self serving or apathetic (with a HUGE emphasis on PATHETIC) asses in light of what's REALLY happening to everyone involved in this cluster fuck.

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:27 pm
by brightonalex
Are you drunk?

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:09 pm
by fishmonkey
DrX, that's your reply? your idea of "absolute and unquestionable proof" is a Hollywood movie?

you don't drink huh? what other drugs you knockin back???

and by the way, not one single person in this thread has actually suggested that illegal immigration is a good thing... it's you that keeps setting up that straw man argument over and over again...

what is questionable is your simplistic and virulent nationalistic sentiment...

personally i'd prefer a world where people don't think it's okay to go around shitting on each other, physically or verbally... you coming on here and ranting about how the world needs rescuing from the elite, while at the same time vomiting elitist diatribe against others is a pretty sad mess, in my opinion...

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:22 pm
by brightonalex
We need to find a way to stop these dirt bag ethnic origin immigrants coming into the country and using illegitimate Ableton licenses. Why should MY hard earned tax money pay for THEIR warping and looping functionality? Its time to wise up peps.

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:40 pm
by DrXparaMental
fishmonkey wrote:DrX, that's your reply? your idea of "absolute and unquestionable proof" is a Hollywood movie?

you don't drink huh? what other drugs you knockin back???

and by the way, not one single person in this thread has actually suggested that illegal immigration is a good thing... it's you that keeps setting up that straw man argument over and over again...

what is questionable is your simplistic and virulent nationalistic sentiment...

personally i'd prefer a world where people don't think it's okay to go around shitting on each other, physically or verbally... you coming on here and ranting about how the world needs rescuing from the elite, while at the same time vomiting elitist diatribe against others is a pretty sad mess, in my opinion...
Quit pretending to be intelligent. You're a poser. The ideas and perspective presented in the movie could not be anymore realistic and down to earth. Have you watched the fucking film you dipshit? No you haven't because you are a know it all pseudo intellectual 15 year old. Get a life and get back to me when you old enough to vote.

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:41 pm
by DrXparaMental
brightonalex wrote:We need to find a way to stop these dirt bag ethnic origin immigrants coming into the country and using illegitimate Ableton licenses. Why should MY hard earned tax money pay for THEIR warping and looping functionality? Its time to wise up peps.
People who steal Ableton Live are Dirtbags. Anymore questions smart ass?

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:02 pm
by fishmonkey
DrXparaMental wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:DrX, that's your reply? your idea of "absolute and unquestionable proof" is a Hollywood movie?

you don't drink huh? what other drugs you knockin back???

and by the way, not one single person in this thread has actually suggested that illegal immigration is a good thing... it's you that keeps setting up that straw man argument over and over again...

what is questionable is your simplistic and virulent nationalistic sentiment...

personally i'd prefer a world where people don't think it's okay to go around shitting on each other, physically or verbally... you coming on here and ranting about how the world needs rescuing from the elite, while at the same time vomiting elitist diatribe against others is a pretty sad mess, in my opinion...
Quit pretending to be intelligent. You're a poser. The ideas and perspective presented in the movie could not be anymore realistic and down to earth. Have you watched the fucking film you dipshit? No you haven't because you are a know it all pseudo intellectual 15 year old. Get a life and get back to me when you old enough to vote.
man, you are getting so predictable... lame...

i suggest you enrol in a PhD and put your stellar intellectual and research chops to a real test, might help you get some perspective...

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:29 pm
by DrXparaMental
fishmonkey wrote:
DrXparaMental wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:DrX, that's your reply? your idea of "absolute and unquestionable proof" is a Hollywood movie?

you don't drink huh? what other drugs you knockin back???

and by the way, not one single person in this thread has actually suggested that illegal immigration is a good thing... it's you that keeps setting up that straw man argument over and over again...

what is questionable is your simplistic and virulent nationalistic sentiment...

personally i'd prefer a world where people don't think it's okay to go around shitting on each other, physically or verbally... you coming on here and ranting about how the world needs rescuing from the elite, while at the same time vomiting elitist diatribe against others is a pretty sad mess, in my opinion...
Quit pretending to be intelligent. You're a poser. The ideas and perspective presented in the movie could not be anymore realistic and down to earth. Have you watched the fucking film you dipshit? No you haven't because you are a know it all pseudo intellectual 15 year old. Get a life and get back to me when you old enough to vote.
man, you are getting so predictable... lame...

i suggest you enrol in a PhD and put your stellar intellectual and research chops to a real test, might help you get some perspective...
typical "turn n run" response.

Let me ask you something. Are you legal?

Since you admit that illegal immigration is inherently "bad" because as you put it, "no one is saying it's a good thing" what exactly is your point? Do you have one other than "somehow, it'll all work itself out"? Because it's NOT going to work itself out. Calling me "narrow minded" because I am calling a spade a spade and you choose to call it a "dark mass" doesn't mean much pal. Your socially and politically correct generalities just point to certain cowardice.

It blows my mind how the very people that defend illegal immigration are the ones that cause their own fellow native immigrant country men and women, that are attempting to do the right thing by legitimately and responsibly naturalizing, the most damage to to the cause that underlines both people's motives to begin with. Those people are scum. Worse than that, many are just plain stupid and choose the cowardly path irresponsibility. Of course they are the first to blame everyone else when the shit hits the fan.

Yep, it's me that's predictable alright. :roll:

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:24 pm
by Android Bishop
3dot... wrote:every person should be judged for his actions...
passing reference to 'they' or 'them'...
is not really racism...
it's simple ignorance...
there's no ideology... just narrow minded fear of the 'other'...
I agree that each person should be based on their own individual actions, however it is perfectly legitimate to judge a culture based upon the collective whole of its members. Of course not EVERY person in a culture will have contributed to that behavioral pattern, but it is the CULTURE that is being judged, not each individual member.
also ... do not confuse 'culture' with 'race'...NOT THE SAME !
'culture' has to do with your place of birth and origins...
'race' means being pre-disposed of because of your 'blood'...
Eh, culture is any group of people that share common characteristics. This is usually occurs through consistent interaction with other members of the group, which then spreads ideas and behaviors to other members via constant exposure. Therefore, cultures can and are developed via race, because members of the same race typically grow up around other members of the same race (if they generally didnt, they wouldnt be a distinct race anymore because they would have bred out their defining characteristics). Cultures are also developed via location, because that is also results in a group of people being constantly exposed to each other and developing common characteristics distinguishable from people in other locations.

Cultures develop any way that people may potentially congregate and retain consistent interaction and exposure to other members of the same group. Even message forums like this one develop their own cultures.

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:34 pm
by spkey
illegal immigrants who don't pay their taxes...
I wonder how many natives do exactly the same...

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:42 pm
by Minimal Justice System
Are we not all part of the human race? I'm now going to be harsh and say 'get over it'. Some people will always find a reason not to like others no matter what religion, colour, sexual orientation or how many pages this thread goes on for.... we don't give a shit if someone doesn't like dogs so why should care who likes other people and who doesn't?

:roll:

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:01 pm
by scott nathaniel
Android Bishop wrote: Eh, culture is any group of people that share common characteristics
. I'm part of the huge penis culture. Any of my peeps in the house?

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:08 pm
by brightonalex
You are a huge penis?

Re: ot : RACISM...

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by scott nathaniel
brightonalex wrote:You are a huge penis?
I think so. After people meet me, I always hear them whisper, " damn, that guy was a huge dick."