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Machinesworking wrote:

DrXparaMental wrote:If you Sir can quote me the lie that you claim I made by quoting me in context, thereby proving my intent to alter the truth for ANY reason, I will QUIT this forum today and NEVER return.

DrXparaMental wrote:Apparently you did not do enough research on Mack to understand the nature of his censure did you? He was found without fault MW, completely and totally. This being despite their "establishment entitled trappings" & utter knit picking. Did you honestly not know this or was this an attempt to side step reality in this case or even perhaps "color" things a bit?

Machinesworking wrote: You're being an ass here, and lying. Here's the quote:

concluding "Dr. Mack remains a member in good standing of the Harvard Faculty of Medicine." (Mack was censured for some methodological errors.)

I never said he was 'wrong', or that they shut him down completely, but personally I find methodological errors to be a fault, and to make you look like a liar to make your point.

Tone Deft wrote:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=906775#p906775
I do understand exactly how nuclear propulsion works

absolute BULLSHIT! hilarious!!!

Could you prove that what I stated was "bullshit" please? You should be able to no problem considering the self righteous nature of your claim.

fuck you're dense. you wrote
I do understand exactly how nuclear propulsion works
no you don't!! you don't know the first thing about it.

So where the fuck are the lies you're claiming I made? List them and stop playing games you brown noising piece of work.

The fact is you yourself didn't have a clue about Mack other than 3 minutes of googling. The censure WAS their way of fucking with Mack and despite the censure he was found to be without fault. Do you even know what censure means? It's meaningless knit picking, but you attempted to make it out like it was a discredit.

Either PROVE I don't know anything about nuclear propulsion or STFU. Just more lies for your camp I guess. An 8th grade science student is taught the basics of nuclear propulsion per submarines. That's not even what we are talking about.

Android Bishop wrote:

scott nathaniel wrote:

b0unce wrote:what do you chaps make of time-travel ? you know, in conceptual terms...
All those humanoid aliens the hillbillies see could be time-traveling super humans. Or something

There is only now, and like Neal Cassidy, I'm almost there, gotta go just a bit faster, faster......

Agreed. the present moment is the only one that exists. the trick to living life fully is to get as in touch with it as you can.

Funny I was just reading some music book and the thought arose. I cameto the conclusion that there realy is no "present" only past and future. As long as there is "time" there can be no present. This moment/ milisecond is different from the one just gone and the one to come.

Therefore, the question is how do we define the present one second one day one milisecond one nanosecond? There is no present only the future and past.

DrXparaMental wrote: So where the fuck are the lies you're claiming I made? List them and stop playing games you brown noising piece of work.

The fact is you yourself didn't have a clue about Mack other than 3 minutes of googling. The censure WAS their way of fucking with Mack and despite the censure he was found to be without fault. Do you even know what censure means? It's meaningless knit picking, but you attempted to make it out like it was a discredit.

Either PROVE I don't know anything about nuclear propulsion or STFU. Just more lies for your camp I guess. An 8th grade science student is taught the basics of nuclear propulsion per submarines. That's not even what we are talking about.

Mack was censured for methodological errors. I don't give a rats ass what you personally think of that, or why you think it happened etc. he was found at fault, you claim he wasn't, basically you're lying.

You stated you know exactly how nuclear propulsion works, it's your job then to back that up, but in response to people asking you to, you demand people prove that you don't know how nuclear propulsion works!.....

Jesus man? you're pretty obviously older, considering your music and tastes, but you argue and go off on the interwebs like a 17 year old kid?? You're one of the few people who's posted here that I've heard about offline. You're famous for internet flame wars on other forums. Personally I would rather it be for the music.

Machinesworking wrote:You're one of the few people who's posted here that I've heard about offline. You're famous for internet flame wars on other forums.

please do tell.

There are other forums?

UKRuss wrote:There are other forums?

Yes, in a galaxy far far away.

DrXparaMental wrote: So where the fuck are the lies you're claiming I made?

Machinesworking wrote: You stated you know exactly how nuclear propulsion works, it's your job then to back that up, but in response to people asking you to, you demand people prove that you don't know how nuclear propulsion works!.....

Again, I blatantly refer you to the accusation that you have made. In a sentence brain boy, where is the LIE you are accusing me of? IF, I would have stated that Mack was never censured, that would be a lie. What you are doing here is attempting to manipulate the fabric of the original conversation outside it's original context as to back up your feeble and indeed down right false accusation that I was lying. What you did was to unsuccessfully argue the fact that Mack's 10 year (which you didn't even know at the time by your surface level admission)was NOT the most exhaustive and officially accredited study on the abduction phenomenon. You also made up some self contrived nonsense about the rest of the psychiatric and psychology profession as being in disagreement with mack or in support of YOUR stance. That's BULLSHIT. I could be like you and TD and assume that this was a lie on your part, but I'm not only brighter than that. I also possess a quality that neither of you seem to. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to IGNORANCE on your part MW. Again, go look up the definition of the word "lie". It's a deliberate attempt on the part of perpetrator to malform the truth with intent to fabricate and bare false information. In a SENTENCE, and NOT some WEAK, interpretary, philosophical, vulcan mind meld sense, W(hen)TF have I done that Sir This being inrespect to context and not an unrelated "weather report."

Machinesworking wrote:Jesus man? you're pretty obviously older, considering your music and tastes, but you argue and go off on the interwebs like a 17 year old kid?? You're one of the few people who's posted here that I've heard about offline. You're famous for internet flame wars on other forums. Personally I would rather it be for the music.

I am a dog who bites when people expect me to bark. Call that flaming if you will, but it's ALWAYS in response and NEVER instegatory as was yours and TD's posted comments directed at me in this case. I made a completely harmless post that was UNDERLINED with an overt level of speculation on my part. I was condescendingly, sarcastically and down right ASSumptively attacked without so much as a shred of demonstrated substantiation. I realize TD did his best to trap me. I just wasn't into the cat and mouse, dance on my strings "puppet" bullshit. When someone FIRST assumes and accuses you of a level of ignorance, that doesn't even bare substantiation concerning the written speculation you have offered, that individual bares the ONLY obligation to provide substantiation to their accusatory claims. Got that?

Please specifically name your outside sources and provide a "copy and paste" example of the evidence to substantiate your claims. Otherwise the above emboldened bullshit is, well, it's just bullshit isn't it? MANY have chose to argue with DrXparaMental. The reciprocation to induced argument is NOT trolling, but may certainly get more than a little heated. As we get "older" (as you put it), when we are challenged should we grow in apathy toward ignorance and self entitled bullshit? Or should we CRUSH it like the insect level bullshit that it is? Whatever you choose to do is your business, I'll determine my own course of action thank you. You want to discuss music, then STOP the nonsense and do so. You might very well be surprised at my constructive level of genuine enthusiastic contribution.

What if we're ALL aliens?

Pasha wrote:What if we're ALL aliens?

We are. If you're trying to visit the US.

@ DrXperimental, You quoted me mentioning your nuclear propulsion statement, then proceeded to comment about Dr. Mack, and again tried to weasel out of stating that Mack had been found without fault!

This right here is the reason for your online flame wars, not some bullshit white knight cleaning the internet of arrogance and self entitlement picture you so gloriously paint of yourself.

Also, keep it short, or I'm going to comment without reading.

I believe in anal probes

while we're busy looking at the skies for aliens the threat will come from underground. the mole people hear and know all.

Machinesworking wrote:@ DrXperimental, You quoted me mentioning your nuclear propulsion statement, then proceeded to comment about Dr. Mack, and again tried to weasel out of stating that Mack had been found without fault!

This right here is the reason for your online flame wars, not some bullshit white knight cleaning the internet of arrogance and self entitlement picture you so gloriously paint of yourself.

Also, keep it short, or I'm going to comment without reading.

I think what you are referring to here is a case of you just doing a sloppy job of cut n paste quoting and in return me thinking you were trying to re emphasize TD's point. This is the bottom line MW, and you can post in response whatever you like. I did NOT lie about ANYTHING. End of story. You can attempt to paint it anyway you choose, 6 ways from Sunday in some cheap Perry Mason rerun, but the TRUTH remains. I HAVE NOT LIED & NEITHER AM I A LIAR. I am merely a logical speculatist with a great deal of respect for the UFO phenomenon.

Believe you me, I am NO white knight and never have I ever pretended to be. I am assuredly an asshole at times, but when I am, it's 9 out of 10 times in response rather than something that I initiate.

Be Well & Have a GREAT Holiday!

PS. This is a GREAT book that contains more wisdom and scientific insight with respect to the UFO issue than I could ever offer.

http://www.life-union.com/5/stantonfriedman/index.html

Tone Deft wrote:while we're busy looking at the skies for aliens the threat will come from underground. the mole people hear and know all.