Live audio quality?

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Post by 3phase » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:32 am

there is a certain history with live that makes you expect the tool in the first hand...

and dragging a clip in the program in default settings cant be called a user error
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Post by rbmonosylabik » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:00 am

It can if live auto-warps it, specially with a wrong default warp mode setting
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Post by Benshik » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:06 am

dont you guys waste wayyyy too much time on this????
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Post by rikhyray » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:07 pm

Robert Henke wrote:Why not realise that it is just software, and it is possible to use it for what ever you like to. Being "pro" means use your tools according to what they can do best for you.
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Exactly the message I tried to convey.

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Post by leisuremuffin » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:16 pm

as if he's ever helped anybody with anything here.




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Post by steve-o » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:54 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:as if he's ever helped anybody with anything here.




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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:31 pm

rbmonosylabik wrote:It can if live auto-warps it, specially with a wrong default warp mode setting
tell live not to auto warp it in preferences.
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Post by 3phase » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:24 pm

i had the warp swirched of... i made it to distort i tunes playback by booting the divx player... its most likely related to that bugger..
however... i am waiting for live 7 before i give the thing a real try again...
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Post by dj superflat » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:59 pm

wow. this is an impressive thread, both for length and idiocy. started by original poster not realizing warp was on, so not realizing there was no problem (and you don't need to use warp, obviously -- you can just use follow actions, or cut and past to "loop" without warp, or whatever -- so complaints about warp's effect are somewhat odd regardless). and then it took how many pages to get to the fact that, yes, it's counterintuitive that complex isn't the "best" warp mode if you want to avoid artifacts when recording at constant tempo (instead, counterintuitively again, use repitch at same tempo), yes, beats can cause artifacts if sample is long and tempo isn't an exact match, etc. didn't we discuss this all ad nauseum months ago?

and odd regardless. you don't find guitar players complaining that a marshall sounds different from a fender deluxe, or engineers complaining that a neve board sounds different from an SSL. that's the point. as many have noted, if you think live doesn't sound good, go use something else. even if it's just your imagination, you still shouldn't use something you imagine not to sound good.

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Post by rbmonosylabik » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:02 pm

dj superflat wrote:and odd regardless. you don't find guitar players complaining that a marshall sounds different from a fender deluxe, or engineers complaining that a neve board sounds different from an SSL.
Oh boy, they do, but those are more like Mac vs. PC fights
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Post by leisuremuffin » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:17 pm

dj superflat wrote:wow. this is an impressive thread, both for length and idiocy. started by original poster not realizing warp was on, so not realizing there was no problem (and you don't need to use warp, obviously -- you can just use follow actions, or cut and past to "loop" without warp, or whatever -- so complaints about warp's effect are somewhat odd regardless). and then it took how many pages to get to the fact that, yes, it's counterintuitive that complex isn't the "best" warp mode if you want to avoid artifacts when recording at constant tempo (instead, counterintuitively again, use repitch at same tempo), yes, beats can cause artifacts if sample is long and tempo isn't an exact match, etc. didn't we discuss this all ad nauseum months ago?

there is no reason to cut and paste or use follow actions instead of loop. Warp does nothing at orig. tempo except for complex. In fact, since v. 4 it is disabled at orig tempo. see, we have had this discussion a million times, but there are plenty of people who either don't get it, or who straight up deny it.



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Post by leisuremuffin » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:26 pm

we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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Post by rbmonosylabik » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:51 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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Post by evernaut » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:03 pm

rbmonosylabik wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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+1

I also think it should be made crystal clear in the manual.

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Post by headquest » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:08 pm

evernaut wrote:
rbmonosylabik wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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+1

I also think it should be made crystal clear in the manual.
And in the on-screen getting started tutorial :wink:
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