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there is a certain history with live that makes you expect the tool in the first hand...

and dragging a clip in the program in default settings cant be called a user error

It can if live auto-warps it, specially with a wrong default warp mode setting

dont you guys waste wayyyy too much time on this????
life is short, PICK YOUR FIGHTS

Robert Henke wrote:Why not realise that it is just software, and it is possible to use it for what ever you like to. Being "pro" means use your tools according to what they can do best for you.
R.

Exactly the message I tried to convey.

Otherwise javascript works wonders, I went trigger happy and started to beam out not only uncivilised, vulgar and rude, but also those with zilion posts saying repeatedly same on and on whatever subject or occasion. So i have neat and clean source of information and option to read "innocent" post where hopefully my unworthy self might be of some help.

as if he's ever helped anybody with anything here.




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leisuremuffin wrote:as if he's ever helped anybody with anything here.




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Acutally, I bought my midi controller based on Riki's suggestions.

rbmonosylabik wrote:It can if live auto-warps it, specially with a wrong default warp mode setting

tell live not to auto warp it in preferences.

i had the warp swirched of... i made it to distort i tunes playback by booting the divx player... its most likely related to that bugger..
however... i am waiting for live 7 before i give the thing a real try again...

wow. this is an impressive thread, both for length and idiocy. started by original poster not realizing warp was on, so not realizing there was no problem (and you don't need to use warp, obviously -- you can just use follow actions, or cut and past to "loop" without warp, or whatever -- so complaints about warp's effect are somewhat odd regardless). and then it took how many pages to get to the fact that, yes, it's counterintuitive that complex isn't the "best" warp mode if you want to avoid artifacts when recording at constant tempo (instead, counterintuitively again, use repitch at same tempo), yes, beats can cause artifacts if sample is long and tempo isn't an exact match, etc. didn't we discuss this all ad nauseum months ago?

and odd regardless. you don't find guitar players complaining that a marshall sounds different from a fender deluxe, or engineers complaining that a neve board sounds different from an SSL. that's the point. as many have noted, if you think live doesn't sound good, go use something else. even if it's just your imagination, you still shouldn't use something you imagine not to sound good.

dj superflat wrote:and odd regardless. you don't find guitar players complaining that a marshall sounds different from a fender deluxe, or engineers complaining that a neve board sounds different from an SSL.

Oh boy, they do, but those are more like Mac vs. PC fights

dj superflat wrote:wow. this is an impressive thread, both for length and idiocy. started by original poster not realizing warp was on, so not realizing there was no problem (and you don't need to use warp, obviously -- you can just use follow actions, or cut and past to "loop" without warp, or whatever -- so complaints about warp's effect are somewhat odd regardless). and then it took how many pages to get to the fact that, yes, it's counterintuitive that complex isn't the "best" warp mode if you want to avoid artifacts when recording at constant tempo (instead, counterintuitively again, use repitch at same tempo), yes, beats can cause artifacts if sample is long and tempo isn't an exact match, etc. didn't we discuss this all ad nauseum months ago?

there is no reason to cut and paste or use follow actions instead of loop. Warp does nothing at orig. tempo except for complex. In fact, since v. 4 it is disabled at orig tempo. see, we have had this discussion a million times, but there are plenty of people who either don't get it, or who straight up deny it.



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we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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+1

rbmonosylabik wrote:

leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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+1

I also think it should be made crystal clear in the manual.

evernaut wrote:

rbmonosylabik wrote:

leisuremuffin wrote:we need a fucking FAQ sticky up in here.



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+1

I also think it should be made crystal clear in the manual.

And in the on-screen getting started tutorial