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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:05 pm
by pulsoc
mikemc wrote:totally aside, sorry: but noting the targeted ads on the page, do goths really need/want their own dating service? seems like the whole point is to brood in festering loneliness, where contact with other humans is foredoomed to result only in despair.
You seem to be victim to the oft-made misconception that goths are a philosophical rather than fashion movement.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:27 pm
by dysanfel
Machinesworking wrote:dysanfel wrote:CombiChrist is so 2003. Power noise has already come and gone.

Well your point would make more sense if you had said
Terror EBM has already come and gone. Power Noise is a different genre entirely. This is Power Noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BnXkL3m ... re=related
A little more intellectually challenging and even noisier.
Hardly Power Noise, no matter what wiki sez.

Powernoise and terror EBM use the same techniques, it just depends on if you add vocals. Combichrist coined the term "Terror EBM" which is about the lamest thing I have ever hear. When I think of "Terror EBM' I envision VNV Nation pouring blood on their head. Lame lamer lamest.
Then again, all of that distorto beat stuff is getting old in my opinion.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:30 pm
by dysanfel
pulsoc wrote:
You seem to be victim to the oft-made misconception that goths are a philosophical rather than fashion movement.
Its not a philospohical movement? What happened? Oh yeah.....Trent Reznor.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:41 pm
by dysanfel
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:23 pm
by Machinesworking
dysanfel wrote:Machinesworking wrote:
Well your point would make more sense if you had said
Terror EBM has already come and gone. Power Noise is a different genre entirely. This is Power Noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BnXkL3m ... re=related
A little more intellectually challenging and even noisier.
Hardly Power Noise, no matter what wiki sez.

Powernoise and terror EBM use the same techniques, it just depends on if you add vocals.
Not even close, Power noise is 99% of the time much more complex on the drum programming. Tends to have multiple changes in a song, plus can be in odd time signatures.
Terror EBM is 4/4 dance music with tense distorted beats.
One is 100% club music, the other is rarely found in clubs, and in many ways is more closely related to Noise groups in general than the goth/industrial scene.
Combichrist coined the term "Terror EBM" which is about the lamest thing I have ever hear. When I think of "Terror EBM' I envision VNV Nation pouring blood on their head. Lame lamer lamest.
Then again, all of that distorto beat stuff is getting old in my opinion.
Pretty dammed sure the term was coined for Suicide Commando, way before Andy stopped doing VNV type EBM crap.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:56 pm
by Chang
Machinesworking wrote:dysanfel wrote:CombiChrist is so 2003. Power noise has already come and gone.

Well your point would make more sense if you had said
Terror EBM has already come and gone. Power Noise is a different genre entirely. This is Power Noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BnXkL3m ... re=related
A little more intellectually challenging and even noisier.
Hardly Power Noise, no matter what wiki sez.

I always like industrial but that sounds horrible. I cannot believe i sat through whole 8:07 of that song. Totally underproduced & predictable combined with going nowhere. It sound like a Jomox XBase was plugged into distortion pedal and later that night it got knocked of its table by a cat and started cycling through demo patterns.
Blah
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:56 pm
by Machinesworking
Chang wrote:Machinesworking wrote:dysanfel wrote:CombiChrist is so 2003. Power noise has already come and gone.

Well your point would make more sense if you had said
Terror EBM has already come and gone. Power Noise is a different genre entirely. This is Power Noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BnXkL3m ... re=related
A little more intellectually challenging and even noisier.
Hardly Power Noise, no matter what wiki sez.

I always like industrial but that sounds horrible. I cannot believe i sat through whole 8:07 of that song. Totally underproduced & predictable combined with going nowhere. It sound like a Jomox XBase was plugged into distortion pedal and later that night it got knocked of its table by a cat and started cycling through demo patterns.
Blah
Dunno man, Immanent Starvation are the real deal. It's not noisy dance music at all, it's it's own thing. Maybe you need to stick to NIN?

Not his best song for sure, but all of it is better than 99% of the shit out there, the drumming is unique, saying it sounds like demo patterns is goofy IMO.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:56 pm
by Kodama
Chang wrote: I always like industrial but that sounds horrible. I cannot believe i sat through whole 8:07 of that song. Totally underproduced & predictable combined with going nowhere. It sound like a Jomox XBase was plugged into distortion pedal and later that night it got knocked of its table by a cat and started cycling through demo patterns.
I like the sound of it, just not the repetition.