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Rave wrote:

SubFunk wrote:I hate everything.

Can I join that club? I cant afford the other one you started

You lucky bastard, this one got free entry

I don't despise genres.

I despise certain songs, and that's about it.

But never genres.

There are some trance tracks that I simply can't stand at all (but other people enjoy them), and then there are others that I really enjoy.

nathannn wrote:sasha's xpander is the first electronic piece of music that i ever liked.
and i still like the whole album, even though it sounds out of date on some parts.

I didn't think Sasha ever released an album with Xpander on?!

It's like anything else. The proportion of quality to shit tracks leans towards the side of shit tracks.

Trance is really what introduced me to electronic music though. I like a lot of it. I've moved more towards house over the years though.

Jay Glow wrote:

nathannn wrote:sasha's xpander is the first electronic piece of music that i ever liked.
and i still like the whole album, even though it sounds out of date on some parts.

I didn't think Sasha ever released an album with Xpander on?!

It was a 4 track E.P.

I used to make music with diff beats and people couldn't 'follow' the beat to mix it or dance to.
I have, over time, 'dumbed down' the beats, to mainly 4/4 type, and find it has become heaps more accessible for others.

I hear many djs playing trance music, and find it difficult to find much difference between any of the tracks being played.
Many of the songs use the same sounds, same formula etc. It gets boring for me.

I think when there is a hating frenzy over a particular trend/genre, (usually because it is done to death) , people get more creative and find ways to change.

Only good can come from the hate.

back to the original question

DO you have to hate trance to be able to be on this forum?



NO - BUT IT HELPS

i agree with the 2 types of music comment, good and bad.... and it seems to me that ppl are throwing around the term trance pretty freely... i think what alot of you really dislike is known as euro trash... and i definately agree that a whole set of tiesto/armin/dyke trance is well boring and repetitive, but dont put all the poor produces into that category!!! and one mroe thing.... for those who dont like trance, it must mean u dont listen to it... and if you aint listening to it, your opinion becomes null and void!

tech trance all the way

Everyone is entitled to an opinion on any genre, regardless of how much or how little they listen to it, that's called freedom of speech mate !

If you listened to the genre a lot, then you are obviously going to be liking at least some of it, otherwise you would just be wasting your time pissing into the wind. So that is an equally biased opinion as some lunkhead who heard one tune they disliked but jumped on a 'anti-tarnce' bandwagon to be popular.

Eurotrash and crummy hi nr g inspired europap are also genres to be despised, but at least they offer some light comic relief, much like happy hardcore - they are being deliberately cheesy and don't take themselves seriously, unlike some tarnce heads, who really believe that they are doing innovative things with music (nope, we heard it all before 1998).

leedsquietman wrote:back to the original question

DO you have to hate trance to be able to be on this forum?



NO - BUT IT HELPS

Tabernacle. You stole my answer.

most trance is calcified shite.

i make psychedelic trance, and i firmly believe it can be one of the most gorgeously produced and intricate of 'lectronic genres. certainly it shits all over the simplistico-repetitive [insert electro band du jour] which are so popular right now

check out Electrypnose, Freq, Sonic Species... this music is muchly good

Check out the music by Airbase, Signum and/or Whirloop

Psychedelic, psychotic, fractal, sub atom kaos, infinate detail revealing fabric of perceptual reality.

or was it just the acid

I never could make the trance I really like, maybe like most trance producers today I cant be bothered to put the programming/compositional detail needed to achive that higher state.

Unlike tarnce "Trance wasn't built in a day"

WTF??

I live in Trance

I started a page like this on a local dj forum.

i produce trance, but i've found myself making every effort to avoid calling it trance because when people think trance, they instantly think sandstorm and tiesto, and none of my stuff sounds remotly closes to any of those.


despite the popular belief, trance is not about stupid snare build ups, retarded half ass vocal samples, asshole djs, sparse, repetitive drum tracks and that goddamn fucking detuned saw lead.

i think if people looked past that, they'd find that trance is actually one of the more intriuging genre of music.


till then, I'll have to keep pretending that trance sucks to hold credibility...