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A very simple thing I will be doing straight-away is making custom Rack+Group Tracks for Impulse (still my favorite drum sampler) and Operator (for drum synth). I feel I will like this method better than using Drum Racks, ironically...

jamester wrote:A very simple thing I will be doing straight-away is making custom Rack+Group Tracks for Impulse (still my favorite drum sampler) and Operator (for drum synth). I feel I will like this method better than using Drum Racks, ironically...

that's not ironic

For me it will toally enable me to get out Live, the looper plus the APC and I have all the kit I need to easily trabsfer from studio to Live performance.

I am REALLY looking forward to this!!

If MfL is affordable, dig into the API and build my own wood & metal APC with motorised faders and xy pad.

gjm wrote:Hmmm, thats just it for me. Maybe its all too much. Too complicated. Too steep. How to ease into it all? More of a turn off than an turn on, confusing. What about LE stuff? Bah... more sitting on the fence.

I have the same feeling. I just bought an Electribe ESX1... yeah I'm "late to the party". Made more song ideas with this box in two weeks than I have with Ableton in a month... I love Live's session view to bits, but even that doesn't have the immediacy of the ESX.

I look at all the extras Live 8 has and think "great". More time spent staring at a screen, destroying my eyes and my mouse hand, building racks and racks and effects and whatever.... No thanks guys, I'm going eBaying for a hardware sequencer... and, you know, actually spend some time writing music.

chis wrote:

gjm wrote:Hmmm, thats just it for me. Maybe its all too much. Too complicated. Too steep. How to ease into it all? More of a turn off than an turn on, confusing. What about LE stuff? Bah... more sitting on the fence.

I have the same feeling. I just bought an Electribe ESX1... yeah I'm "late to the party". Made more song ideas with this box in two weeks than I have with Ableton in a month... I love Live's session view to bits, but even that doesn't have the immediacy of the ESX.

I look at all the extras Live 8 has and think "great". More time spent staring at a screen, destroying my eyes and my mouse hand, building racks and racks and effects and whatever.... No thanks guys, I'm going eBaying for a hardware sequencer... and, you know, actually spend some time writing music.

Remember though that a lot of the new 'complicated' stuff will be in Max for Live, an add-on product that you can just not buy to avoid the complications

Personally, I'll be getting MfL initially just to have access to the devices that come with it (e.g. step sequencer and that loop shifter thing) and the things that other users come up with. If I then make my own stuff then so be it.

I have also stripped my software right back to just Live and an audio editor to ensure I keep focussed. I might upgrade to the Suite, but I can't see needing any other software after this update.

six_o_clock_crow wrote:

chis wrote:

gjm wrote:Hmmm, thats just it for me. Maybe its all too much. Too complicated. Too steep. How to ease into it all? More of a turn off than an turn on, confusing. What about LE stuff? Bah... more sitting on the fence.

I have the same feeling. I just bought an Electribe ESX1... yeah I'm "late to the party". Made more song ideas with this box in two weeks than I have with Ableton in a month... I love Live's session view to bits, but even that doesn't have the immediacy of the ESX.

I look at all the extras Live 8 has and think "great". More time spent staring at a screen, destroying my eyes and my mouse hand, building racks and racks and effects and whatever.... No thanks guys, I'm going eBaying for a hardware sequencer... and, you know, actually spend some time writing music.

Remember though that a lot of the new 'complicated' stuff will be in Max for Live, an add-on product that you can just not buy to avoid the complications

Hmmmm. Reading the forum for me right now is like a dyslexic reading algebra. So much stuff going on. I thought about taking advantage of the 6LE upgrade to full 7 with the freebies to ease the pain into 8 in hopes that the looper is worth it. Dunno. Maybe they will make the 8LE version a little sweeter than the 6LE to 7LE release.

I was really excited that my plans finally arrived for my new stand up acoustic bass that I will build this year. I would like to say I am happy with Live 8, but I am now thinking its all a bit out of my league I'll watch for a while.

gjm wrote:I was really excited that my plans finally arrived for my new stand up acoustic bass that I will build this year. I would like to say I am happy with Live 8, but I am now thinking its all a bit out of my league I'll watch for a while.

If you feel that way then, yeah, that's probably best - take stock for a while.

The Live 8 upgrade - the core programme upgrade, forgetting the Max and APC stuff - is amazing on it's own and will bring many workflow improvements to all users. Take a look at the Live 8 video on the main Ableton page - it explains all the core enhancements very clearly.

But, y'know, whatever version of Live you use now - it's still that version; it still does all the great things it could before, so don't get disheartened with Live.

But do excuse those of us that are getting overexcited

8O wrote:If MfL is affordable, dig into the API and build my own wood & metal APC with motorised faders and xy pad.

That was my plan to, except for the xy pad... I'm thinking about building channel strips tailored to my needs