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wherever the fuck they're from, I think you get my fucking point

My Bad. No, Daft Punk was NOt what I had in my mind as their music is obviously melodic. (whether they just stole the melodies and dropped some sidechained beats is beyond the scope of this discussion)

Sorry for the confusion. Carry on.

If you think of kompakt being JUST bleepy, you might wanna check out Justus Köhnke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0d_NdN1zoc

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I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Kompakt with melodies, maybe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfYQxrw6_V4

smartass303 wrote:

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Nothing...I was just testing to see if you were actually listening to what I was saying, given that I didn't say Kompakt WAS all bleeps, merely that SOME stuff from Kompakt can sound as though it didn't have melody.

Now that you're paying attention, back to the conversation.

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

To each his/her own, but I definitely disagree. That track is gorgeous! I thought the textural melody worked really nicely with the zoom-in on the building as well. Pretty cool stuff.

EDIT: and now I read your message above

as we speak of Kompakt.
for me their golden years are over. they had a huge impact on what we call
clicks and cuts / minimal or whatever deadbeaten word you have. listen
to the early releases. some great treasures. from these days only a few of
the labels kept their quality: Background, Perlon, Telegraph to name a few IMO

one of my (when not THE) favourite on kompakt:
Closer Musik - One,Two,Three (no gravity) Timeless!
-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzeGIGkC4k

nebulae wrote:

smartass303 wrote:

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Nothing...I was just testing to see if you were actually listening to what I was saying, given that I didn't say Kompakt WAS all bleeps, merely that SOME stuff from Kompakt can sound as though it didn't have melody.

Now that you're paying attention, back to the conversation.

HAHA, you got me...

i think there is the right time and place for most of the stuff being produced nowadays. there are horrible parties with really boring music and people going nuts because its sooo *minimal* (read: no emotion at all, even tough there might be melodic parts involved).
it all relates to the context music is played in me thinks.


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^ agreed!

Also, the track you posted is really nice and beautifully melodic. Couple that with Gui's latest release, and you can see that even Kompakt is heading in a very melodic direction. Which is cool

nebulae wrote:^ agreed!

Also, the track you posted is really nice and beautifully melodic. Couple that with Gui's latest release, and you can see that even Kompakt is heading in a very melodic direction. Which is cool

yeah, but justus*s track is from 2005 album "Doppelleben"... an oldie.

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I actually find a lot of Autechre's earlier stuff very melodic, it's melody spread across different sounds.

A good thing to try with that "cheesy melody" is to do similar, spread it across lots of different noises and places in the mix. One note a bleep, another a piano note or even a pitched drum, anything. I like cheesy melodies, especially over simple, childish chord patterns. It always cracks me up when a fuck off beat and bassline comes in and it all fits together into something light hearted, (sort of anti-dubstep )

This sort of thing is why I really miss old fashioned midi functions like "explode by key" which would split a melody track into different single midi tracks.

Sometimes I'll do what Martyn said and write one melody and spread the midi file across a bunch of different sounds, then just erase certain notes in the various files. Sometimes it sounds like crap, other times it works out well.

JoshR wrote:Sometimes I'll do what Martyn said and write one melody and spread the midi file across a bunch of different sounds, then just erase certain notes in the various files. Sometimes it sounds like crap, other times it works out well.

Nice idea, will try this out along with starving student's suggestion of going crazy with tiny deletions in the arrange view.