Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by tundravisions » Sat May 09, 2009 7:18 pm

i have the same problem...upgraded to live 8 the other day, and it's running SO slow...preview in browser takes 3-4 seconds to start, when i drag a channel into the arrangement, it also takes like 5-6 seconds...

I have a quadcore q6600 with 4gb ram, and a motu ultralite mk3.

in live7 it ran like sunshine, but now it's SLOW SLOW SLOW... really weird, but i have good faith in our Berlin-based developers that they should fix this soon.
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by STERIO » Sun May 10, 2009 4:15 am

Just upgraded to Ableton Live 8.02... Well... they fixed part of the problem. I'm running 2 graphics cards in my Mac Pro and I use three 20" displays running at a 1680 x 1050 resolution. When I spread out Live 8.02 across two screens that are connected to the same graphics card, Live 8.02 runs perfectly fine. However, when I spread the session out across two screens that are connected to different graphics cards, Live 8.02 performs slow as molasses... Weird bug man! I'm still running in Live 7 until these bugs get fixed. Live 8 still isn't stable for my work flow. Silly Bugs!


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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by maxmin » Mon May 11, 2009 5:37 pm

As well made an upgrade to 8.0.2 on Mac OS X (10.5.6) – problem still exists. Whenever i make my Live window bigger than around 1000px, everythings slows down. I tried to unplug my second monitor, reboot and i don't know what else, nothing helps. I hope the Abletons come up with a solution to this annoying bug soon. Live 7 ran absolutely smooth.
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by Petteri Karjalainen » Mon May 11, 2009 8:23 pm

I still have the same issue with 8.0.2, if I have my live window on my macbook's external 24" monitor fullscreen, Live slows down so much it becomes unusable. If I just resize the live screen to about the same size it would be on the macbook's own screen .. it runs smoothly.

I suppose this isn't the most important bugfix for ableton, but still I cant use Live 8 untill this gets fixed :(
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by BenjaminBosmans » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:51 am

I'm still having this problem. I'm not just gonna buy a new mac when mine is still working perfect EXCEPT in Live 8.

What's the comment of the Ableton team?

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by maxmin » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:05 am

Also still having this problem on Mac 10.5.7 and Ableton 8.0.3 – i bought a software i can't use…
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by BenjaminBosmans » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:42 am

Actually i just HAVE to use Live 7. I bought Live 8 for nothing. Can i get a refund?

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by poshook » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:17 pm

BenjaminBosmans wrote:Actually i just HAVE to use Live 7. I bought Live 8 for nothing. Can i get a refund?
same here, need to use Logic instead... 8.0.4 update still the same lazy

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by poshook » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:21 pm

mofus wrote:I am getting very poor performance compared to my "old" 2008 mac pro that was an eight core 2.8ghz.
I have problems reaching lower latencies than 512/1024 samples with a decent amount of plugins.

One session I am running now has 11 tracks and around 30 mixed plugins. That consumes 83% of the CPU with hyper threading enabled. This is with a buffer size of 1024 samples. This takes only around 35% if I go down to two processors and no hypertheading.

Same problem in cubase, I cant even go below a buffersize of 256 if I have 5-10 tracks with no plugins on them.

This machine seems to be a bad choice for a daw machine until snow leopard makes hyper threading more usable.
it is not about OS. let look at Logic 8 in the same 10.5.x. It works like a charm with almost no impact to processor load. I can run 50-60 tracks full of plugins and instruments and CPU load never goes over 25% and latency (reactions of instruments when I play MIDI keyboard) is still absolutely usable.

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by kkorpos » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:21 pm

Geeze, I was going to go out and purchase a boxed upgrade of Live 8 tonight....maybe I should hold off, considering I just updated my mac to the 10.5.7 version....

Geeze, I hate when I get all excited about purchasing a new version of something -- finally - and then you just hear bad things....perhaps Live 7 is the way to go for a while....

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by cids » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:54 am

Guys, there must be something specific with your configs... please try to pinpoint the issue down to the exact hardware/software configs that have this issue, so we can help Ableton instead of complaining... Live 8.0.4 is running fine on my Mac Pro with 10.5.7, so maybe it's a 8-core issue or related to specific Mac Pro revisions?
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by Jabbon » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:01 am

hahaha good one, is there a deal?
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by Damz » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:15 pm

ahahah if this satanic live 8 doesnt reach to work on our computer, please ableton, tell us on which machine we have to buy to work with it without loose our hair: 486? 586? nintendo nes? car stereo? blender? electric haven? electric razor?
is there a machine where live 8 works AS LIVE 7? :D

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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by cids » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:40 pm

Thanks for your positive feedback...
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Re: Ableton Live 8 Running horribly slow on Mac Pro 8 Core

Post by stefspijk » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:29 pm

Live 8 on my Macbook Pro (10.5.7) unfortunately runs slow to...This is not when I do something specific, it just runs sluggish in general...
It even effects all other program's that are running...

I didn't had this problem with Live 7 at all...

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