Dubstep.

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:38 pm

ima download it. The track list looks good, and I always though DJ Shiva was cool.


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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Machinesworking » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:38 pm

funky shit wrote:Here in ireland its not popular at all with this girl I want to naked wrestle with, she went to glasgow for a weekend, and said all the shit in the clubs "was this dubstep crap".

i just want in her pants and I'll make whatever kind of music it takes to get there! :D
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by nowtime » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:42 pm

I'm a bit confused by what is now called dubstep.

Exactly 2 years ago i got turned on to "dubstep." It was the coolest shit I had heard. From what I can remember, it combined Jamaican dub elements, the wobble bass (and dub riddim bass) and what I would call a double-time feel. Must have been about 150-170 bpm. A big thing that I loved about it was the fast, yang, double-time percussive feel but it was all on top of this half-time 75-85bpm pulse (the skank?) which you could move your hips and body to (dance!) in a sexy kinda way.

I can't seem to find this style of dubstep. Now all I hear is this industrial, dark, drumnbassy stuff.

Anyone know what I'm taking about?

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Ed J » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:43 pm

SquidHelmet wrote: If 40:00-48:00 doesn't do anything for you then there's little for you to enjoy in this style, in that case.
as I suspected.

That passage starts out sounding like some overly distorted latin military band, then turns into a rather un-tuneful version of a guitar solo, played by a guy who just discovered the fret-bend-with-whammy-pedal technique, within about a second, and I honestly found the change rather jarring. (that's more the quality of the DJ than the chune itself, however the 'chune' was a bit meh).

In general, I get the feeling that me and Dubstep will not be friends.
Some stuff, and some other stuff. Honest.
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by funky shit » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:46 pm

im listening to this mix now, im on the third track just.. and it looks like i need to stop and go make beats lol.. but im diggin it, its chill-ful... some awesome sounds.
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Destro » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:48 pm

funky shit wrote:Cant get my head round it all.. can imagine it being played in a club.
Enlighten me people.
As cheesy as this sounds, you don't so much listen to as feel dubstep in a club. Dubstep's extremely bass heavy and, in a club with good subwoofers, you can literally feel every low frequency sine wave pass through your body. It's a near-meditative experience that's very different from the effect of four to the floor techno/house/etc.

And unless you've got monster subs, it's impossible to replicate the dubstep club experience at home, so I totally understand where you're coming from. Hell, I didn't get it either until I went to a big dubstep night at London's Fabric. After years of listening to dubstep on my headphones, the experience was a revelation!

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by funky shit » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:49 pm

Destro wrote:
funky shit wrote:Cant get my head round it all.. can imagine it being played in a club.
Enlighten me people.
As cheesy as this sounds, you don't so much listen to as feel dubstep in a club. Dubstep's extremely bass heavy and, in a club with good subwoofers, you can literally feel every low frequency sine wave pass through your body. It's a near-meditative experience that's very different from the effect of four to the floor techno/house/etc.

And unless you've got monster subs, it's impossible to replicate the dubstep club experience at home, so I totally understand where you're coming from. Hell, I didn't get it either until I went to a big dubstep night at London's Fabric. After years of listening to dubstep on my headphones, the experience was a revelation!
flat out on the narcotics eh Destro? :wink:
haha naw dude, i know what you mean.. no such nights like that available over here tho.
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by manwell » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:05 pm

Dubstep has progressed so quickly that it is very difficult to say what it actually is anymore. It seems to attract producers from lots of other genres so if you like any form of electronic music there will be some dubstep that you will like or at least appreciate.

Early deep stuff: Mala, Loefah, Pinch
2 step garagey type stuff: Burial, Synkro, Joy Orbison
Melodic 'wonky' dubstep: Joker, Gemmy, Guido
Dub/Reggae influenced stuff: Mungo's Hi Fi, Cotti, RSD
Electronica influenced: iTal Tek, Boxcutter, Starkey, Milanese, Neil Landstrumm
Grime/Dubstep crossover: Virus Syndicate, Sarantis, The Bug
Serious Wobble: Skism, Bar 9, 16 Bit
Ultra heavy apocalyptic stuff: King Cannibal, Broken Note

and then there is everything which doesn't fit into a category.

Some amazing producers from the world of electronica and breakcore make some very interesting stuff. Check out Cardopusher, Ebola, Pachecko and Starkey for heavy, experimental, but still danceable stuff. It's worth doing some research because the stuff you hear on mix albums like Dubstep Allstars may not be interesting enough for you if you have a good knowledge of electronic music. A great thing about dubstep is that there isn't really any seriously commercial stuff and the producers who have made tunes that get airplay and become more mainstream, like Skream with his La Roux remix, still make really big non-commercial tunes that the hardcore dubstep scene appreciate which isn't really true for many other genres.

I urge everyone to give dubstep a proper try because it has to be the most progressive genre of music for a long time. It has only really been going for 5-6 years and only took off about 3 years ago and look how far it has come, it soaks up influences like no other genre and spits them out in so many unique ways. Plus, who doesn't like horrendous amounts bass!

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by outershpongolia » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:21 pm

EOTO.. I don't care if it's dubstep by anyone's definition but it sure is fuckin' crazy.

http://www.iclips.net/content.php?content_id=25118

Track 1 and 4

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Sage » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:22 pm

Being half an hour away from Bristol and an hour from London, all you get in the clubs here is Dubstep at the moment and even more K.

It's good because it showed you can get people dancing without 909's set to four on the floor or the Amen break repeating over and over. But the lack of a drop in dubstep can leave you feeling a bit cold compared to D&B and Trance.

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Destro » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:28 pm

manwell wrote:I urge everyone to give dubstep a proper try because it has to be the most progressive genre of music for a long time. It has only really been going for 5-6 years and only took off about 3 years ago and look how far it has come, it soaks up influences like no other genre and spits them out in so many unique ways.
Totally agree, manwell! Dubstep's come a really long way and the new stuff that's coming out right now (from artists like Untold, Brackles and Joy Orbison) is really out of this world.

On a related note, dubstep heavyweights Appleblim and Ramadanman have even tried their hand at techno to, IMO, brilliant results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbU4lzFWqVc

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by DangerousDave » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:58 pm

outershpongolia wrote:EOTO.. I don't care if it's dubstep by anyone's definition but it sure is fuckin' crazy.

http://www.iclips.net/content.php?content_id=25118

Track 1 and 4
AAAAh! I'm glad someone mentioned them! I just saw them live not too long ago, and it was sooo fuckin groovin ( and i do agree they have some dubstep qualities thrown in there) I couldnt stop moving.

That vid seems to be more of their uptempo groovin stuff, but they do get freakin down with the wobble and thump as well.
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by Donnie » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:00 pm

I really like good unique sounding dubstep but a lot of it is really bland cut n paste wobblestep imo. Honestly, i prefer the genre when it doesnt contain the same played out signature wobble. The wobble is so played out to me that in dubstep or dnb as soon as I hear a signature wobble without a heavy dose of flavor added I become immediately disinterested. Next! I tend to gravitate to the more techno influenced dubstep and stuff that shares structure simularitites but is not conventional dubstep, especially live/electronic hybrids that play off of the beat structure.

Beyond that I think that a lot of the hype saying its a fresh and new is kinda funny, its not like similar types of music havent been done plenty of times over the years...it just wasnt genre-fied yet. Going along with that that it seems a lot of stuff gets lumped into the "dubstep" category these days that has a similar structure but probably shouldnt be called dubstep, its become a failsafe to describe it as dubstep due to lack of a better term imo.

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Re: Dubstep.

Post by senator adam » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:14 pm

DangerousDave wrote:
outershpongolia wrote:EOTO.. I don't care if it's dubstep by anyone's definition but it sure is fuckin' crazy.

http://www.iclips.net/content.php?content_id=25118

Track 1 and 4
AAAAh! I'm glad someone mentioned them! I just saw them live not too long ago, and it was sooo fuckin groovin ( and i do agree they have some dubstep qualities thrown in there) I couldnt stop moving.

That vid seems to be more of their uptempo groovin stuff, but they do get freakin down with the wobble and thump as well.

That drummer is rad.
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Re: Dubstep.

Post by nowtime » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:41 pm

here's more EOTO

http://www.baeblemusic.com/concertvideo ... /EOTO.html

they're doing some nice live looping.

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