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fail.

congratulations to your 17500th?

SubFunk wrote:They are in my eyes more 'damaging' then anything else, i am basically against everything that takes you away from training and believing your ears.

Ideally, yes, but our ears are only good for what we, subjectively, can hear. Given the higher potential of hearing loss these days, I will presumptuously allege that a great percentage of music makers today have hearing loss in various frequencies. I always use a spectrum analyzer in conjunction with my ears.
Hearing loss from noise damage is becoming more prevalent in the 3k-6k range which is in the upper range but not drastically so. So, use the spectrum because I'll be willing to bet you're a mo-fo with a deaf-wish

paq - lame. you don't know what you're talking about, minus all cred n00b.

you use the logarithmic scale because that's how our ears hear sound. that's why we use the dB scale in audio.


3k to 6k is the upper range? what do you call 10k to 20k?

I mis-wrote, forgive me---it is the mid-range of our hearing, but nonetheless, it's not a range we should be expecting hearing damage. So, our ears are generally becoming less reliable, which is not a good thing.

Tone Deft wrote:paq - lame. you don't know what you're talking about, minus all cred n00b.

wtf u knuckle? u just didnt get the point, thats why i wasnt serious. because logarithmic is NOT, as u said, prefered by most people, its prefered by everyone! everything related to tunes and tuning etc u just can do with a logarithmic scale. BUT:

the upper frequencies (lets say 5000-20000) or general a linear scale is pretty important at noise sounds (u cant colour them properly at a log scale) and at drum cymbal timbres. and thats where spectrum fails. also spectrum is just 2-dimensional ans does not include time in spectral analysis, so its something completely different anyway. im sure u dont know the foobar spectrum analyser, because then u'd know what i mean and dont clevershite around here on your way to 18k.

TL;DR

no cred.

gee..... get a life.

oh, so you don't like it when you want to talk shop and some jackass starts trolling you with vague answers?

pwned. you got played with your own game.



I disagree with your point on linear being better for some frequency ranges but I'll give it a try sometime. I usually use spectrum for low end muddiness between kick/bass/guitar, not for high end stuff.

yes im gettin angry fast if somebody trolls at me. and i noticed u already few times before doing that. i dont like that.

so if u never tested it, please stop spreading your desinformation. i dont think u make techno, but if u did, im sure your white noises suck.

and please do the test with linear scale and samples of different ride cymbals. then ull see what i mean.

a word of adwise, don't argue with tone deft he is the king.

a better word of advice... argue all you want. Your opinion is worth defending but knock off the dumb shit about how many posts he has. For the focal point of your discussion it has no bearing and trying to knock him for it is like calling a kid with glasses four eyes. Its the refuge of the weak. Don't point out the obvious if it has nothing to do with your debate. George W. Bush used to do that and he's a moron. The only people that agree with that way of thinking are guilty of thinking that way.

Make your point but keep the locker jock "put downs" in your speedos and save em for the keg party.

i think we digress.....wasn't this thread about trying to help with using the spectrum analiser.........

^ naw, it's not digressing. There's good info in the thread.

There are different uses and styles in using them.
Honestly, I've been trying most of my years to take the science out of mixing and mastering as much as possible.

knotkranky wrote:^ naw, it's not digressing. There's good info in the thread.

There are different uses and styles in using them.
Honestly, I've been trying most of my years to take the science out of mixing and mastering as much as possible.

full on amen!!!

that is what i try to say, don't make a sience out of something, that has zero to do with sience.