DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by McQ714 » Thu May 20, 2010 4:59 pm

SubFunk wrote:
McQ714 wrote:we're all dicks here! it's just sometimes we can be helpful dicks... :wink:
i never help.

it is against my nature.
don't i know it!

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by The Empireal Formula » Thu May 20, 2010 7:28 pm

haha WOW it got all kinds of crazy up in here. No offense taken guys i just knew you weren't understanding me.
so why the hell you ask such a question?, if you know the answer / reasons for yourself already, that is rather weird to me.

so don't be surprised receiving snappy answers.
well my main question was about the iTunes and iPod I only provided the story about my system cuz i felt it was necessary details as to why im using WAV before i get a smart answer like "why not just use mp3?"

but this was my main concern
my main question is this......... read this.

http://www.abletonlivedj.com/index.php? ... 8&Itemid=2

now what does this mean for our iPod's?

my library in WAV format wont fit on my iPod Touch 32GB maybe my old 80GB iPod but even then im not even sure if iPod play WAV files.

but supamonsta pretty much nailed it on the head
it isn't really a mess,

your iPod will be quickly overloaded if using wavs, but it can read it.

as others said you don't really need to bother with the decoding cache, but I can understand your matter, and having all your files already in WAV could be time saving for ableton, or CPU lighter, in case you're djing in live with other stuff than just reading mp3s (VSTs, lots of routings, etc..)

if you got Disk space, let's have your mp3 collection for itunes/ipod, and a separate wav folder for your djing tracks.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by supamonsta » Thu May 20, 2010 8:15 pm

and by the way my dick has already apologised for misreading him.
is ChilDj your dick???? you got a separate account for it???? and it's ChilDj??????


MEGA-WOW

I knew you were special mate, but wow!!
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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by The Empireal Formula » Thu May 20, 2010 9:04 pm

I bought two copies of Ableton...... one for me, one for my dick

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by The Carpet Cleaner » Thu May 20, 2010 10:36 pm

When you buy your music online nowadays, it's already in mp3 or another compressed format. So if you play only .wav files that means you play music that you ripped from your CDs, which means also you only play music from the 90s :-)
ok just kidding at the end, but you see my point.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by Ninja-Matic » Thu May 20, 2010 11:23 pm

SubFunk wrote:
ChiDJ wrote:I find it insulting that anyone who claims to be a DJ / performer doesn't have a clue when it comes to mp3's VS a full file.

Go back to your bedroom and stay there. You don't deserve to be playing anywhere else.
+1

do your homework and school time before you go onto any kind of stage, damn it.

-1

The OP's question is not DIRECTLY about WAV vs MP3 - but about CACHING in ABLETON.

I would simply say "read the OP's question" but I fear injecting LOGIC on the internets is a no-no... especially with the replies of you two folks.

Reading is for chumps and jumping the gun and posting random gibberish is the norm on the interglobes, I guess.

Sad.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by Ninja-Matic » Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 pm

1ino1eum wrote:When you buy your music online nowadays, it's already in mp3 or another compressed format. So if you play only .wav files that means you play music that you ripped from your CDs, which means also you only play music from the 90s :-)
ok just kidding at the end, but you see my point.
It's a valid point.

Every DJ pool I am in gives me 320 MP3s.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by Ninja-Matic » Thu May 20, 2010 11:37 pm

ChiDJ wrote:My apologies to the OP. I do understand your issue to be one of file conversion within LIVE and trying to optimize disk space. However, I still take offense to those who play mp3's in a club setting. I think you're selling yourself and your audience short by giving them a subpar sonic experience.

And for those of you who can't hear the difference, I believe you probably can't. Another reason why you should leave production to those of us who can.
8) :wink:
Peace!

Tod
1) EVERY record pool I am in gives me everything in 320 MP3 - sometimes that is the ONLY way to get unreleased tracks or tracks that are ONLY released online. You keep bragging about doing "research". If YOU did any - you would KNOW this is the only way to get these tracks that are ONLY sold online via MP3.

2) Anyone who DJ's without the use of audio-enhancing plugins, proper compression, limiting, etc should be SHOT - however - this goes without saying. I've been at clubs in front of a thousands aaaaaaaaaaand... the systems still suck at clubs. I have the pleasure of knowing a few of the top DJs around who make more in 2 weeks than most do in a full year of werk - they use MP3s.

3) Production and DJing are 2 different things - so it's asinine to talk about DJing with MP3s - blasting people who do then say "leave the production to those of us who can". Producing music is not DJing, lol. In a production environment you start at whatever bit and sample rate your DAW is set for. Obviously it's not 320 MP3s, lol.

Your points are still moot and have nothing to do with the OP's topic. If you're simply going to berate others for using MP3's then I suggest YOU do the research to find out which heavy hitters use MP3s religiously while DJing.

Why not just help the OP by answering his questions instead of bashing him? Are you that deprived of attention?

I can send over my cat if you're really that lonely, champ. Maybe even give the pizza delivery boy a few extra bucks to keep you company, if you'd like. Sounds like you're just screaming for attention.

Let me know - I just got out of surgery today so I've got time to make arrangements for you, if you'd like.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by ChiDJ » Fri May 21, 2010 12:19 am

@Ninja-Matic,

Point taken. You obviously have your pulse on the music industry. I'm a luddite and you're the hipster. I guess all the labels that send me uncompressed .wav/ aiff files do it out of sympathy cause they worry I can't adapt. It's cool. Play your "am radio tracks" and just do me one favor.


Don't do me any favors.





Peace!

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by Da hand » Fri May 21, 2010 2:03 am

2) Anyone who DJ's without the use of audio-enhancing plugins, proper compression, limiting, etc should be SHOT - however - this goes without saying.
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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by cacti » Fri May 21, 2010 2:26 am

i didnt read all the responses to this thread, but never convert mp3s back to wavs. it will sound bad.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by The Empireal Formula » Fri May 21, 2010 6:26 am

like that guy said "people are drunk and not gna give a flying f#$%% if your using mp3 or WAV" lol
When you buy your music online nowadays, it's already in mp3 or another compressed format. So if you play only .wav files that means you play music that you ripped from your CDs, which means also you only play music from the 90s
ok just kidding at the end, but you see my point.
okay in reply to this smart guy, Even if i did rip my whole cd collection at least i bought my music instead of easily downloading tracks from limewire or some shit that so many people do nowadays. But nonetheless even sites like beatport is starting to offer tracks in WAV format because the very same reason i'm discussing right now. If ANYBODY has been paying attention to a word i said!!!

READ PEOPLE

http://www.abletonlivedj.com/index.php? ... 8&Itemid=2

now..... like they said in the link above "mp3's or WAV its up to you....." and im not gna bash anybody for what type of file they use lol thats so stupid. We all have our reasons to have our rig setup the way is more convenient for us and instead of focusing on what file type he uses or how legit he /she is, focus on THE MUSIC, thats whats its all about. If a mix sounds damn good to me its not gna matter what file type they use.



I like how only a few people read my post entirely and actually said something useful to help my situation. To those people who did try to help thank you i very much appreciate your help

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by morbid » Fri May 21, 2010 7:11 am

SubFunk wrote:
i have a dick, that is right. (a rather powerful one, as tod pointed out)
:D

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by pepezabala » Fri May 21, 2010 7:22 am

The Empireal Formula wrote:I like how only a few people read my post entirely and actually said something useful to help my situation.

yeah, the real pro's do not read posts, they are too busy posting about the fact that they are the real pro's, haha.

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Re: DJing with WAV's or MP3's??

Post by SubFunk » Fri May 21, 2010 9:35 am

pepezabala wrote:
The Empireal Formula wrote:I like how only a few people read my post entirely and actually said something useful to help my situation.

yeah, the real pro's do not read posts, they are too busy posting about the fact that they are the real pro's, haha.
true. :lol:

@ ChiDJ, man you must be in a very special position, i only get 128kbs mp3s sent as promos and i can only buy mediocre compressed formats,
i have no choice like all the others playing any decent sounding music, damn it. i envy you.

please, where can i get wav/aiff like you?
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