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ChiDJ wrote:

caaflex wrote:

ChiDJ wrote: We, (USA), are a bunch of self centered twats who think anyone who isn't Christian is evil. I personally think all religion is outdated crowd control. I couldn't give a rat's ass if they built the mosque in the center of ground zero.

This is a fairly ridiculous thing to say, especially given that most Americans hate christian extremists like the Westboro Baptist Church assholes.

A lot of the main, legitimate, concern revolves around Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and not because of it being Muslim.

My 2 cents is that it's up to the NY State officials to decide, if they are going about it in a legal way then it's their freedom to do so.

I rest my case. If you're of any religulous affiliation, you are prejudiced and unable to be objective. Myself, on the other hand, can calmly conclude that you all are living in a "magical" world where Eve was created from Adam's rib and some people can walk on water.

I cannot relate. Do you also believe in Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? Leprechauns ?

Seriously? What are you even talking about? If this is going to be the level of your discussion then this will get even more pointless than your last post.

I'm not religious in the least, I've studied many religions at school, and in philosophy classes, but I don't believe in, or practice any of them.

its funny how the KKK can call a rally in downtown new york and no one gives a shit - thats the constitution.

when it comes to the non christian / non white members of the community getting all "uppety" and want to build a community centre the constitution doesnt apply anymore.

strange that one.

did anybody mention the mosque thats been there for nearly fourty years and thats only four blocks away?

did it ever occur to anyone to build a multi cultural centre AT ground zero?? see how that shit would go down.

caaflex wrote:

ChiDJ wrote:I rest my case. If you're of any religulous affiliation, you are prejudiced and unable to be objective. Myself, on the other hand, can calmly conclude that you all are living in a "magical" world where Eve was created from Adam's rib and some people can walk on water.

I cannot relate. Do you also believe in Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? Leprechauns ?

Seriously? What are you even talking about? If this is going to be the level of your discussion then this will get even more pointless than your last post.

I'm not religious in the least, I've studied many religions at school, and in philosophy classes, but I don't believe in, or practice any of them.

Hehe, ChiDJ just participated in that whole "If there is even a hint that you disagree with me in the slightest then you are on the *other* side and you are an idiot and X, Y, and Z, etc., etc." thing that so many people seem to practice as if it were a religion. It's sloppy thinking and makes for even sloppier debating.

Then again, when has ChiDJ ever been known to have a problem with "sloppy?"

the irish bombed the english to fuck week in week out. you know what we did... nothing. didnt lose our shit, nothing. thats the biggest middle finger you can give.

start acting like this you give them what they want. let them build ten mosques at ground zero. thats a real fuck you because we are better than you.

on a side note nearly all the 9/11 bomber where saudi. i dont see many yanks boycotting saudi oil. dirty islamic oil.

i'm way over in los angeles but I just heard about that other mosque if that's what it is today. I bet they are hoping not too many people bring them up. these days are very toxic obama is like a living license to go crazy and not be called crazy, it's the first time we ever had a president that was a constitutional scholar and a basketball player and the country just cannot handle it, it was funny how he walked that shit back though, he was like ' were all americans and we gotta preserve our rights' and then
he must of thought wtf did I just say, next time he's like uhh yeah what I said before but that's just my opinion hahaha, obamas a funny dude the man knows he can't move too fast and doesn't want to have the need to do so

what about'cha man Newt Gingrich though, Newts like you know what I really don't give a fuck what comes out my mouth, I'll say anything if you make me president next time round

nuperspective fucking nails it.

well said sir. well said.

caaflex wrote: Can you blame people for being sensitive to this, with him at the head, when he has said things along the lines of US Policies being an accessory to 9/11? and that there are plenty of angry Muslims willing to die if things don't change?

The muslim exteremist terrorism network is very smart, they won't leave blatant, open ended ties to any of their terrorist acts and their public figures like Abdul Rauf. It's not as simple as just arresting him. To reiterate, I'm not touting that all muslims are terrorists, hopefully no one is that ignorant.

So in one post you go from direct quotes, that even idiots like Glen Beck have admitted to being probably the case,
IE our foreign policy in the Middle East of supporting ruthless despots has a good chance of being at least partially responsible, and that if it keeps up it will create more terrorists.
This truth is then turned into said muslim leader being linked to terrorists in the next couple lines you post.... So what is it then? if I'm a white christian republican I can say these things, but if I'm a muslim and do so, I'm obviously a terrorist... wow? No wonder you posted your own possible rebuttal?

You are in fact touting that muslims that question our governments motives and state the obvious instead of keeping quiet are obviously linked to terrorists.
That's pretty far fetched and makes me wonder where you get your informations from? CIA ties?

nuperspective wrote:the irish bombed the english to fuck week in week out. you know what we did... nothing. didnt lose our shit, nothing. thats the biggest middle finger you can give.

start acting like this you give them what they want. let them build ten mosques at ground zero. thats a real fuck you because we are better than you.

on a side note nearly all the 9/11 bomber where saudi. i dont see many yanks boycotting saudi oil. dirty islamic oil.

Muslims were not responsible for september 11th. terrorists were.

i completely agree with the rest of your statement though.

macmurphy wrote:

nuperspective wrote:the irish bombed the english to fuck week in week out. you know what we did... nothing. didnt lose our shit, nothing. thats the biggest middle finger you can give.

start acting like this you give them what they want. let them build ten mosques at ground zero. thats a real fuck you because we are better than you.

on a side note nearly all the 9/11 bomber where saudi. i dont see many yanks boycotting saudi oil. dirty islamic oil.

Muslims were not responsible for september 11th. terrorists were.

i completely agree with the rest of your statement though.

i was making a parallel with the rhetoric that all muslims are generalised as terrorists. it wasnt the irish it was the terrorist IRA movement etc. but we didnt ban Guinness.

you know what we did... nothing.

It just works.

Although I must admit after the tube and bus bombings in London we all went out for a curry at our favourite Peshawari restaurant.

nuperspective wrote:

macmurphy wrote:

nuperspective wrote:the irish bombed the english to fuck week in week out. you know what we did... nothing. didnt lose our shit, nothing. thats the biggest middle finger you can give.

start acting like this you give them what they want. let them build ten mosques at ground zero. thats a real fuck you because we are better than you.

on a side note nearly all the 9/11 bomber where saudi. i dont see many yanks boycotting saudi oil. dirty islamic oil.

Muslims were not responsible for september 11th. terrorists were.

i completely agree with the rest of your statement though.

i was making a parallel with the rhetoric that all muslims are generalised as terrorists. it wasnt the irish it was the terrorist IRA movement etc. but we didnt ban Guinness.

yep. fair enough

http://daryllang.com/blog/4421

is a relevant article...

Political wedge issue that preys on fear and ignorance.

This should be a non-issue.