why is live unable to find its own audio files?

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by [nis] » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:36 pm

3phase wrote:no... it dont offers anything...
That's strange. This would be a bug, unless there's any reasonable explanation that I'm currently overlooking.
3phase wrote:so a changed directory results in a wrong checksum?
No.
3phase wrote:and if the files in that folder have the correct names checksums shouldnt matter...
This might be true in your particular case (searching in old Live 4/5 sample folders), but it certainly matters if you scan folders on a higher level. Verifying the checksum is a must to ensure data integrity.
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by [nis] » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:39 pm

Btw, can someone of you send us an .als file where this problem occurs, together with one of the samples that Live definitely doesn't find?
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by 3phase » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:45 pm

[nis] wrote:Btw, can someone of you send us an .als file where this problem occurs, together with one of the samples that Live definitely doesn't find?

not wright now.. have to play live tomorow and gave up on old tracks yesterday because of the issues and have all external drives diconnected allready i
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by [nis] » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:56 pm

No problem. Get your set sorted first. Good luck.

Btw, in case you want to give it another try (accessing the old Live 4/5 sets), try moving the .als file out of the samples folder. This might already be enough to find the samples.

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Manestra » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:15 am

Donnie wrote:
Oftentimes no, it will be the same exact same file used before. Maybe I moved it from one drive to another, but the same exact file with the live analysis file there as well.

Say I have 100 mp3s in a set, all in the same folder or subset of folders but the root folder changed drives. Naturally it doesnt find the files so I point it to the new root folder location. Sometimes it wont find any when I do an automatic search, then I do the same exact search...it finds 2. Then the next time it finds 3. Then next time none. But they are all right there in the same folder???
That's 100% the problem I'm struggling with!

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by Manestra » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:27 am

[nis] wrote:Btw, can someone of you send us an .als file where this problem occurs, together with one of the samples that Live definitely doesn't find?
How to send and where to send? just 1 missing sample? the original mp3 file or also the converted wav file?

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by H20nly » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:26 pm

3phase wrote:
[nis] wrote:Btw, can someone of you send us an .als file where this problem occurs, together with one of the samples that Live definitely doesn't find?

not wright now.. have to play live tomorow and gave up on old tracks yesterday because of the issues and have all external drives diconnected allready i

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by arafel » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:53 pm

Worst search ever... Logic 7 & 8 - the EXS sampler -- it will search for hours to find a missing sample file. And when it finds one (lets say in folder X)... it will start the search over again for the next sample. There is no option to specify "look in folder X". And it does not start searching in Folder X for the next missing sample. It is a total Pita.

I've had great luck with the Ableton Search for missing samples.

Being able to specify the folder that you know the samples are in (preferences) is a great feature.
Being organized has really helped to not even need Spotlight, most of the time.
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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by photonal » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:54 pm

Bizon wrote:
steko wrote:
Bizon wrote:With the exception of the OSX search function.
What's the problem?
Have you ever tried looking for a specific file like a bank of presets for a particular VST or even a sample? The only things it can find are items you have downloaded or things on your desktop.
To bypass spotlight and search for something you could try the following:

Open a 'Terminal'
su root ('cos root will have the necessary permissions)

1)
cd [drag the 'Library' folder icon onto the Terminal window to autofill the path to the Library folder or any folder you want to specifically search] --> e.g. should get cd /Library
hit return for a new command line

then enter:

find . -name "PRESET NAME" -print

e.g.
find . -name "*Pad*FXP" -print

--> this will output the paths of any fxp presets containing 'Pad' in the filename


2) or could use
find / -name "PRESET NAME" -print
e.g. find / -name "*Pad*FXP" -print

--> which would search the entire root folder disk

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Re: why is live unable to find its own audio files?

Post by 3phase » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:01 pm

arafel wrote:Worst search ever... Logic 7 & 8 - the EXS sampler -- it will search for hours to find a missing sample file. And when it finds one (lets say in folder X)... it will start the search over again for the next sample. There is no option to specify "look in folder X". And it does not start searching in Folder X for the next missing sample. It is a total Pita.

I've had great luck with the Ableton Search for missing samples.

Being able to specify the folder that you know the samples are in (preferences) is a great feature.
Being organized has really helped to not even need Spotlight, most of the time.
at least logic finds a sample.. live usually doesnt.. but we know that..thats old..

it just gets painfull when its even blind when you find the files for it...


I had so much issues lately when trying to import some clips between ableton instances ,, even when exporting importing with the browser the asd files get often ignored.. not allways.. maybe 30% but why?

iporting without browser now totaly ignores asd files...

when i remember wright that wasnt the case in the past. but i am not sure anymore
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