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Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:36 pm
by plantaginate
dum wrote: Whether I'm right or wrong I still wouldn't prove it one way or the other in the terms you are asking for, I use computers I don't build them.
quite. i'm sayin you seem to think you know all about how multicore applications are distributed amongst the CPU. all i'm asking is for some reference to back up your original assertion.
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dum wrote: I can see that conceptually at least one track = one core. That's enough for me.
really? seeing a CPU meter change in the application context tells you all you need to know?
dum wrote: electronic-engineering.com is that way :arrow:
oh, and if you can be bothered searching ableton devs/reps have discussed it on the board. Although maybe not in as much detail as you'd like.
heh. "go to here if you want to know"
that's your answer to it all?

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:41 pm
by dum
plantaginate wrote:
dum wrote:
I haven't fully stated with empirical results...because as I said I don't care if you believe me or not.
lol nice copout,
dum wrote: Besides..that I'm not an electronic engineer has no bearing on the truthfulness of my beliefs.
gold. so you have no intellectual basis whether or not what you're being spun is the truth or not?

No cop out, my initial statement was all I was prepared to offer on the matter as far as arguing the point goes. you weren't convinced and that's A-OK with me. This current exchange isn't about me proving anything, it's about you insisting I prove something and me saying I don't care if you believe me or not. And round and round.

Intellectual basis ? I have no electronic engineering background if that's what you're getting at ? But back around 2006 when these discussions were taking place more often (seems you've been living under a rock) I took the claims on board despite having no...ahem...'intellectual basis' (jerkoff-smiley.gif) to verify how plausible those claims were, and in practise they matched up with my experience. one track = one core. Certainly with ableton live. So I accepted what was being said by the devs as truth.

Now, that's that. Or do you still want to believe I'm invested in proving this to you with empirical results ?

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:06 pm
by plantaginate
dum wrote:
plantaginate wrote:
dum wrote:
I haven't fully stated with empirical results...because as I said I don't care if you believe me or not.
lol nice copout,
dum wrote: Besides..that I'm not an electronic engineer has no bearing on the truthfulness of my beliefs.
gold. so you have no intellectual basis whether or not what you're being spun is the truth or not?

No cop out, my initial statement was all I was prepared to offer on the matter as far as arguing the point goes. you weren't convinced and that's A-OK with me. This current exchange isn't about me proving anything, it's about you insisting I prove something and me saying I don't care if you believe me or not. And round and round.
damn. all i ever wanTed was someone to tell me that "one track = one core"
don't any of "you" get that?
dum wrote: Intellectual basis ? I have no electronic engineering background if that's what you're getting at ? But back around 2006 when these discussions were taking place more often (seems you've been living under a rock)
gold. just point me to the discussions mate, thats all i want to know
dum wrote: I took the claims on board despite having no...ahem...'intellectual basis' (jerkoff-smiley.gif) to verify how plausible those claims were, and in practise they matched up with my experience. one track = one core. Certainly with ableton live. So I accepted what was being said by the devs as truth.
so basically your saying you have no idea but what ever anyone tells you that sounds at least slightly plausible is A-OK by cos fuck no one else has told you different?
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jesus, how hard can it be?
it's generally accepted that the CPU distribution per track equates to

ONE-TRACK = ONE-CORE

Everyone seems to swear by this but no one can offer any evidence from any DAW producers that this is the case?

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:55 pm
by steko

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:57 pm
by steko

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:02 pm
by steko

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:02 pm
by plantaginate
ok, apart from this thread all i've seen is a bunch of internet forum conjecture
and the rest of those links prove nothing,
right.

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:16 pm
by steko
The first should be sufficient...

The ones in my last post are extra info new Mac Pros... (OK could have labeled that - will do)

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:26 pm
by dum
steko wrote:The first should be sufficient...
don't count on it, the plantagenet isn't so easily convinced

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:27 pm
by steko
:lol:

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:29 pm
by plantaginate
relying on other people to do your homework?
not like you mate?

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:31 pm
by plantaginate
and for the record all i ever asked for was a little proof
until steko that was not forthcoming,
so save save your chiding for your grandma,,

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:33 pm
by dum
for the record I didn't care if you were willing to take my word on it or not. As I stated from the onset.

Now you know better, we can all move on with our lives.

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:35 pm
by plantaginate
for the record shove it up you're arse
what do you think of that?

Re: New Mac Pros - 12 cores

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:37 pm
by dum
plantaginate wrote:for the record shove it up you're arse
what do you think of that?
That's exactly how I'd hoped you'd concede.

Thanks!