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dsu wrote:The trick is to find a Dr. who

^^ That

dsu wrote:The trick is to find a Dr. who specializes in the problems of artists.

I when here http://www.musiciansclinics.com/home.asp and found him most helpful. One of the things I learned is that hearing lose is a function of amplitue and duration. 85db is will have an effect if the duration is long

My visit was covered by medicate.

I'm a canuk.

David

Thanks! Just the kind of doc I'm looking for.

so - Shure-SRH-440, Audio-Technica ATH-M50 or Sony MDR7506?!
i need to hear the right balance between sub bass and drums.
cheers!

of course you want to listen to them for yourself. when I went looking the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pros were highly recommended, still haven't gone to listen to them yet.

Not helping me here TD...
I'm in Belgrade, we have shitty stores, so checking them before buying is not an option for me. I'll just add that I don't need them for mixing, I do that on my Adam 7's, I need them to check the mix and hear what's (actually) going in the bottom end.
Well, that's my case. Sorry for hijacking the topic.

argh, then I guess find a place with a good return policy and get the ones that your gut is telling you to get. in these situations we usually already have one in mind. my bet is that at a certain price range you can't go wrong as long as you stay away from overhyped companies like Bose or those freaking Dre Beats headphones.

hth

mihai wrote:sony 7506 are great.

The 7506s are definitely not flat...therefore they would not be "great" for critical mixing. Very popular for Djing but they have a profound low and high boost.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD600/

I have the Senn 600s for mixing and have used them for over 8 years. Although they are expensive I trust their mids/highs completely. They are very comfortable and non-fatiguing. My big complaint about them is that the low end is so extended that I have to set my kick/bass balance up before I go to the Senn 600s.

However, once that level/balance is situated the Senn 600s are gold. I have never heard a better headphone on the whole either...listen to these and everything else sounds second rate.

I also really like the open back setup. I like being able to hear the world around me when I press stop.

Proper mixing headphones aren't cheap, I'm sure you've figured that out though.

Yes. I own HD650s as well as ATH-M50s and the Shure SRH440s.

We already made the comparison. Expensive is better. What you didn't mention is that you shouldn't track with cans like HD600s and 650s due to the sound leakage in from the open backed headphones. They are great for mixing and lounging around listening to your favourite music though.

It doesn't matter that cans like the MDR7506 are not totally neutral. What IS important is that you burn them in, get to know their sound and know where they are hyping sound, so you can make adjustments for it. When you know how your cans react and how to compensate them, then you are effectively making them neutral or very close to neutral.

Besides, IMHO, monitoring should be be 80-90% done on monitors, with just referencing and checking stereo image etc on headphones. And listen on a variety of sources - I use studio monitors, home theatre, boombox, burn a cd-r and car stereo, use good headphones like the HD650s, use the Audio Technica or Shure and some crappy Ipod buds etc and make my mix and mastering decision based on having referenced all of those.

Just bought an Ultrasone Pro 550 new for 150 € and it sounds very natural and wide !

I use a pair of DT-150's for some of my mixing (that, monitors, and custom iems)and they're quite flat other than bass rolloff which is inevitable in virtually any pair of cans in their price range.