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Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:27 pm
by beats me
humnumb wrote:
beats me wrote:Exactly 1 inch difference across even with a 2 inch screen size difference. And I don't buy the theory that, that 1 inch is going to make it or break it in a setup.
It's more than 2 inches difference taking into account width and depth.
:roll: Really? The justification smoke screen rolls on. This is the kind of babble I'd expect from PC users and is just odd in a Mac discussion.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:44 pm
by robin
More benchmarks:

http://www.macworld.com/article/154596/ ... marks.html

Waiting for BTO configs. The OpenCL/Grand Central Dispatch support in Live 9 (please?!!) might be useful:

http://www.ableton.com/pages/faq/osx_106

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:24 pm
by oblique strategies
New Benchmarks Show 13-Inch MacBook Air Rivaling Its MacBook Pro Counterpart.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/26/new ... unterpart/

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:46 am
by delicioso
beats me wrote:
humnumb wrote:
beats me wrote:Exactly 1 inch difference across even with a 2 inch screen size difference. And I don't buy the theory that, that 1 inch is going to make it or break it in a setup.
It's more than 2 inches difference taking into account width and depth.
:roll: Really? The justification smoke screen rolls on. This is the kind of babble I'd expect from PC users and is just odd in a Mac discussion.
You guys are both nitpicking at this point. Conclusion: It will fit the bill for some folks and it won't for others, even before anyone of them have actually used it. :D
oblique strategies wrote:New Benchmarks Show 13-Inch MacBook Air Rivaling Its MacBook Pro Counterpart.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/26/new ... unterpart/
"Among the most interesting observations made in the study is that the new 13-inch MacBook Air actually slightly outperforms the current-generation 13-inch MacBook Pro, a machine that offers a significantly faster 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo processor as compared to the MacBook Air's 1.86 GHz version. This comes despite the MacBook Air with its standard 2 GB of RAM being tested against the MacBook Pro with 4 GB of RAM." 8O

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:28 am
by LoopStationZebra
Most of you, expectedly, are utterly missing the point of the Air series. Which is:

All laptops/tables/net books/whatever are going to be as thin as your needle dicks, have an ENORMOUS amount of power and an ENORMOUS amount of memory.

Are the Air machines perfect? Of course not, FFS.

But somebody has to get the ball rolling and do some actual goddamn trailblazing, and that somebody is - as usual - Apple.

Which is how the Lord intended it to be.

Your welcome.

And remember, I'm not going to be here for you forever.

:P

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:30 am
by Simbosan
Why would you settle for Core 2 Duo when you can buy i7? Seriously, I'm not Mac-knocking, but why go for Duo when you can go for Quad? Especially when Live will use multicores?

It's all about the grunt, and if you are concerned about size, check out the latest i7 laptops from AlienWare, tiny and outrageously powerful.

Everytime someone mentions the issue of power, the Macbois assume it's Winblowz users having a pop, its just grunt.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:38 am
by badguy#5
what would you get macbook air 11in or 16 gb ipad i already have a white macbook 2.4ghz

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:15 pm
by oblique strategies
256GB SSD Upgrades for New MacBook Air Announced
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/27/256 ... announced/

Taiwanese company Photofast has announced the first 3rd party SSD storage upgrade kit for the new MacBook Air. (via Engadget) The new MacBook Air is the first Apple laptop to use a special SSD card rather than a traditional hard drive enclosure. While the new SSD storage card allows Apple to further reduce the size of the MacBook Air's enclosure, upgrade parts are less readily available. Photofast is the first of likely many vendors who will fill this void.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:48 pm
by beats me
badguy#5 wrote:what would you get macbook air 11in or 16 gb ipad i already have a white macbook 2.4ghz
Depends on your needs. An iPad is never going to completely replace a production or performance computer which the Air will on a limited scale. But an iPad can replace a computer for more typical needs…also on a limited scale. Just consider it a customizable control surface that also does a shit ton of other things. If I didn't screw around with music production I don't know if I would even need a computer other than for larger storage capacity.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:23 pm
by Hidden Driveways
I personally think the MacBook Air is viable machine, but this is how it all breaks down in my head:

iPad > MacBook Air
iPad > HP Tablet
iPad > Dell Streak
iPad > Samsung Galaxy
iPad < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air > MacBook

And yes, this doesn't have anything to do with anything. But there it is.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:37 pm
by delicioso
Hidden Driveways wrote:iPad > MacBook Air
iPad > HP Tablet
iPad > Dell Streak
iPad > Samsung Galaxy
iPad < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air > MacBook
You forgot:
MacBook Air 13" 1.86GHZ 2GB RAM > MacBook Pro 13" 2.4GHZ 4GB RAM

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:39 pm
by Digital_Damage
I currently run with an Alienware mx11 for DJ gigs and some light production work when on the plane, simular resolution and screen size. I can tell you that the only reason to get a unit that small is to DJ with, not to run a live act with. The processor used in that thing is going to freek out after adding only a couple of effects. You will also need to get a dedicated surface to use in conjuntion with it.

To be honest I usualy use my precision M6500 most of the time, even at gigs. The difficulty in working with something that small makes and space saving benifits moot.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:40 pm
by Digital_Damage
delicioso wrote:
Hidden Driveways wrote:iPad > MacBook Air
iPad > HP Tablet
iPad > Dell Streak
iPad > Samsung Galaxy
iPad < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air > MacBook
You forgot:
MacBook Air 13" 1.86GHZ 2GB RAM > MacBook Pro 13" 2.4GHZ 4GB RAM
Did you really just post that?

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:45 pm
by humnumb
Simbosan wrote:It's all about the grunt, and if you are concerned about size, check out the latest i7 laptops from AlienWare, tiny and outrageously powerful.
Sorry but you're missing the entire point. We're talking about the Mac experience here which is a combination of OS X and the Mac hardware.

Re: New Macbook Air - A good gigging machine?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:46 pm
by delicioso
Digital_Damage wrote:
delicioso wrote:
Hidden Driveways wrote:iPad > MacBook Air
iPad > HP Tablet
iPad > Dell Streak
iPad > Samsung Galaxy
iPad < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air < MacBook Pro
MacBook Air > MacBook
You forgot:
MacBook Air 13" 1.86GHZ 2GB RAM > MacBook Pro 13" 2.4GHZ 4GB RAM
Did you really just post that?
Yes. Yes, I did.
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 4#p1211894