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Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:51 pm
by Bionecteur
to 3 phase: this is not fair...
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:05 pm
by necho
3phase wrote: come on be fair.. ableton has only a handfull of autodidactic hobby coders..
As we can see in this unusal honnest video
http://www.ableton.com/de/developer-jobs
They cant compete with the pros..and even in the open source community many pros are engaged in theire freetimes..or students that will be pro..
Ableton is a small company they can´t afford to hire expensiv coders.. for that what one pro coder costs the month you pay the complete ableton staff.
^^^ see - that was just unnecessary.
do you realize how much you discredit your own points by posting things like this?
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:40 pm
by 3phase
Bionecteur wrote:to 3 phase: this is not fair...
to rape the userbase with a max integration is not fair either..beside its their own promo video..
when this is not fair one maybe should tell them that it would be better for their image to remove that monthy phyton joke...
Especially because the reality prooves half the statements in there to be wishful thinking..
beauty of code.. stabilty prior to new features..maintainability..same fuction with less code ..pffff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu1iND6v ... re=related
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:20 pm
by ambientidm
@hoffman2k
the mouse will bring dials and faders down to max neg values and kinda jump around
when this happens i have to use arrow keys to edit
as far as cpu spikes i often have to quit live and reopen a set to deal with that
i love live and m4l but they really need to fix this stuff big time or they need to rename it studio because these bugs are bad and could seriously screw up a live performance
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:28 pm
by hoffman2k
ambientidm wrote:@hoffman2k
the mouse will bring dials and faders down to max neg values and kinda jump around
when this happens i have to use arrow keys to edit
Is that with all devices or just very specific ones?
What type of mouse are you using?
Does it ever happen with Ableton's native devices?
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:00 pm
by ambientidm
i use my track pad or wacom pad
its not reproducible
it seems to happen when m4l has been in use for a while
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:21 pm
by xzusa8ky
ilya.soloviev wrote:Oh god! I can't listen to all that bugs'n'crashes of L8 anymore!
Abes, please...let this end!
Good One!
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:35 pm
by hoffman2k
ambientidm wrote:i use my track pad or wacom pad
its not reproducible
it seems to happen when m4l has been in use for a while
Does the behavior sound like this?
When I alter a parameter the mouse pointer control acts jittery and 'jumps away' fast into the direction I'm dragging.
Then the solution is:
Poster wrote:In order to prevent the awkward mouse pointer behaviour when using a Wacom tablet you can add the folowing line to your options.txt file:
-absoluteMouseMode
This only works with Live 8.0.2 and later.
How to use Options.txt
Create a text file called "Options.txt" in the same folder where Live's Preferences.cfg file is located. Here's where to find the preferences folder (Live 6.0.9 or higher):
Mac OS X: /User/Library/Preferences/Ableton
Windows (Live 4 and later versions): C:/Documents and Settings/yourusername/Application Data/Ableton/Live/Preferences
Windows Vista/Win7: c:/users/username/appdata/roaming/ableton/live/preferences/
Note that on some Windows systems the application data folder is hidden by default. Here is what you have to do to make it visible:
Windows XP/2000
Launch Explorer.
Select Tools/Folder Options/View.
Check "Show hidden files and folders."
It has nothing to do with MFL, this was bugging Wacom users for years. Not anymore...
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:07 pm
by ambientidm
yeah but even without the wacom my mbp track pad does the same thing
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:12 pm
by hoffman2k
ambientidm wrote:yeah but even without the wacom my mbp track pad does the same thing
So you're not even going to try it?
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:25 pm
by macmurphy
3phase wrote:Bionecteur wrote:to 3 phase: this is not fair...
to rape the userbase with a max integration is not fair either...
dear god man get a grip!
do you ever read your posts back to yourself and think 'yeah, that's a level headed, concise and in no way hyperbolic reply'.
ableton employ coffee drinking hobbyist coders? well why don't you spend a few months learning to code for yourself until you reach a hobbyist standard
and write your own software. or better yet, go and work for ableton. i'm sure they could do with someone with your eloquence, sunny disposition and technical know-how
to show them how it's done.
godspeed you, sir.
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:50 pm
by kb420
macmurphy wrote:dear god man get a grip!
do you ever read your posts back to yourself and think 'yeah, that's a level headed, concise and in no way hyperbolic reply'.
ableton employ coffee drinking hobbyist coders? well why don't you spend a few months learning to code for yourself until you reach a hobbyist standard
and write your own software. or better yet, go and work for ableton. i'm sure they could do with someone with your eloquence, sunny disposition and technical know-how
to show them how it's done.
godspeed you, sir.
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:58 pm
by macmurphy
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:02 pm
by 3phase
macmurphy wrote:3phase wrote:Bionecteur wrote:to 3 phase: this is not fair...
to rape the userbase with a max integration is not fair either...
dear god man get a grip!
do you ever read your posts back to yourself and think 'yeah, that's a level headed, concise and in no way hyperbolic reply'.
ableton employ coffee drinking hobbyist coders? well why don't you spend a few months learning to code for yourself until you reach a hobbyist standard
and write your own software. or better yet, go and work for ableton. i'm sure they could do with someone with your eloquence, sunny disposition and technical know-how
to show them how it's done.
godspeed you, sir.
hyperbolic reply
a hyperbolic reply would be to hang them on the next tree.
dont be so stiff..they have fun with theire max integration that gets pushed thru rat all costs.
And i have fun with theire funny promo videos, rectified rainers campaign and magix music maker agenda
Re: 8.2.2 just as buggy as ever
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:02 pm
by ambientidm
hoffman2k wrote:ambientidm wrote:yeah but even without the wacom my mbp track pad does the same thing
So you're not even going to try it?
no i'll try it
thanks for your help
you're a mac and live guru