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FORMAT wrote:

FaX-01 wrote:

FORMAT wrote: that's a real good one!

But I suspect the Powerbook hit the water later because PC laptops are bulkier, weigh more and therefore fall faster!

............hmmmm someone failed physics class 101

why?

Law of physics and the act of gravitational pull .........

Simple highschool level physics or does Newton's law not apply to a Mac because the the apple that feel from a tree on to his head wasn't one .

FaX-01 wrote:

FORMAT wrote:

FaX-01 wrote:
............hmmmm someone failed physics class 101

why?

Law of physics and the act of gravitational pull .........

Simple highschool level physics or does Newton's law not apply to a Mac because the the apple that feel from a tree on to his head wasn't one .

it really all depends on how high the cliff was, fellas.

with no wind or inertia being put on the objects , an egg and a safe would make it to the bottom at the same time.

drush wrote:

FaX-01 wrote:

FORMAT wrote: why?

Law of physics and the act of gravitational pull .........

Simple highschool level physics or does Newton's law not apply to a Mac because the the apple that feel from a tree on to his head wasn't one .

it really all depends on how high the cliff was, fellas.

Really? OMG, those lessons were a loooooong time ago...

rol

Acceleration of gravity


If you drop an object relatively near the Earth, it will speed up according to the acceleration of gravity (g).


Object speeds up


When you let go of the object, its velocity is zero.


Since g = 32 ft/s2 = 9.8 m/s2, the velocity will be 32 ft/s (9.8 m/s) after one second.

Because the object is accelerating, the velocity after 2 seconds will be 2 x 32 ft/s = 64 ft/s (19.6 m/s).

After 10 seconds, the velocity will be 10 x 32 ft/s = 320 ft/s or 98 m/s.



You can see how the velocity of the object gets faster and faster.


Terminal velocity


Although a falling object will continue to accelerate until it is made to stop, like when it hits the ground, air resistance will slow down that acceleration. Air resistance is approximately proportional to the square of the velocity, so as the object falls faster, the air resistance increases until it equals the force of gravity. The object has reached what is called its terminal velocity.


There have been many calculations on what the terminal velocity would be for a penny dropped from a high building or airplane. Because a penny would probably tumble, the calculations can become highly complex. One estimate is that a penny dropped from a high building will accelerate until it reaches around 230 mph.


Some dispute such a high terminal velocity. A better example of terminal velocity is that of dropping a baseball. Once a falling baseball reaches 94 miles per hour or 42 meters/second, it would remain at the velocity and no longer accelerate.


Acceleration independent of mass


One surprising characteristic of the force of gravity is that the acceleration it causes in falling bodies it independent of the mass of the object.


In other words, a 5 pound weight would fall at the same rate as a 10 pound weight. If dropped from the same height, they would take the same time to hit the ground. Of course, in dropping a light weight object, air resistance often will slow the object down more than a heavier object.


Not only does is the acceleration of gravity independent of the mass of an object, but it is also independent of the velocity of the object parallel to the ground.


In other words, it an object is traveling at some velocity parallel to the ground, it will fall at the same rate as a stationary object. Thus a bullet shot from a gun will hit the ground at the same time as one that was simply dropped from the same height.

toneroll wrote:with no wind or inertia being put on the objects , an egg and a safe would make it to the bottom at the same time.

or, say, a mac and a pc...

drush wrote:

toneroll wrote:with no wind or inertia being put on the objects , an egg and a safe would make it to the bottom at the same time.

or, say, a mac and a pc...

thanks this is higher physics...

toneroll wrote:with no wind or inertia being put on the objects , an egg and a safe would make it to the bottom at the same time.

ah, perhaps the problem lies here: I'd maybe drop my pc laptop off the cliff, but I'd definitely TOSS the mac

- ergo the inertia alone would ensure that the mac landed first.

it's better than the old mac versus pc debate at any rate

(but machinate i think in my test, the pc would land first coz i would drop kick the mac off the edge ergo sending it up for a short while )

toneroll wrote:with no wind or inertia being put on the objects , an egg and a safe would make it to the bottom at the same time.

...provided there is enough fall time for both objects to reach terminal velocity. hence the height of the cliff being a very important factor.

and because of the rotation of the earth, an object can be thrown farther if it is thrown west.

Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia is the fear of long words.

are we really still discussing this?

i would say that in this hypothosis we are refering to a cliff that is the exact size in which objects could not reach terminal velocity

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the old "feather and anvil fall at the same speed" experiment is for objects in a VACUUM !
IE : if you drop a G5 and a Newton off a cliff on the moon they will both land at the same time.
Try the same thing under atmospheric pressure and the more massive object will land first. This is due to the effect of air resistance.

if you doubt this ... obtain a feather and a brick . I bet you one suitcase full of weapons grade uranium that the brick falls faster.

this is not advanced physics people!

this cliff is on the moon ....

duh...

and here i thought it had to do with the pc OS vs. the mac processor speed. darnit.

Angstrom wrote:the old "feather and anvil fall at the same speed" experiment is for objects in a VACUUM !
IE : if you drop a G5 and a Newton off a cliff on the moon they will both land at the same time.
Try the same thing under atmospheric pressure and the more massive object will land first. This is due to the effect of air resistance.

if you doubt this ... obtain a feather and a brick . I bet you one suitcase full of weapons grade uranium that the brick falls faster.

this is not advanced physics people!

Yeah! So I was right! Tibook slower as its lighter, slimmer and generally funkier! Yau!