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Bought! (painless transaction btw) very excited to give this baby a going over!!

S4racen wrote: think you may have undersold yourself....

I think you are an officer and a gentleman!

Thanks

Hd

Nice job Ned, and a very fair price

Thankyou!!

Downloading...! Really looking forward to this...

Hope everyone is getting on ok with it. Had no technical issue emails yet so I'm guessing the thing works.

I need to give it another testing when I am at home instead of work, but it seems the "feedback" had no effect, or at least not the effect I expected.
It's like I still only hear a very short delay time.

been lazy (had a gig last night)... going in the studio now.. will report back

Hd

JuanSOLO wrote:I need to give it another testing when I am at home instead of work, but it seems the "feedback" had no effect, or at least not the effect I expected.
It's like I still only hear a very short delay time.

Ok, that's strange.

By default when you drop te device it should load to a setting where an echo effect is present. If not, check the dry/send/wet dials are up full, check the high pass is down full, and the low pass is up full, then dial in a delay time and adjust your feedback. Hopefully that will give you a clean delay sound.

The dirty echo has 3 separate ways to control in ad out signals, so it can be used as a send effect when used as an insert, and a separate wet amount when used on an aux return.

I had a play today .. totally destroyed a drum loop... recording 3 different mash-ups into 3 separate tracks, grouping them together, throwing a compressor and eq on the group master, and then recording them into another clip on another channel

Anyways here's a coulple observations..

The 'dub' button ,, should it reset the send back to 0 ?

The 'feedback' .. I too didn't get the expected results... it was doing something a extreme settings but tbh I could get to work in a 'normal' way..

I also think that your other video of the delay was 'better' than the last one you posted up.. In 'better' I mean the sounds you created and the general flow of video overall..

Hd

heavensdaw wrote:I also think that your other video of the delay was 'better' than the last one you posted up.. In 'better' I mean the sounds you created and the general flow of video overall..

Hd

Funny that you say that. When i was watching the 2nd video i felt that in the first one the effect sounded better, i also preferred the simpler GUI look.

heavensdaw wrote:I had a play today .. totally destroyed a drum loop... recording 3 different mash-ups into 3 separate tracks, grouping them together, throwing a compressor and eq on the group master, and then recording them into another clip on another channel

Anyways here's a coulple observations..

The 'dub' button ,, should it reset the send back to 0 ?

The 'feedback' .. I too didn't get the expected results... it was doing something a extreme settings but tbh I could get to work in a 'normal' way..

I also think that your other video of the delay was 'better' than the last one you posted up.. In 'better' I mean the sounds you created and the general flow of video overall..

Hd

the dub button should reset the send back to zero, as its there to quickly send a small amount of the dry signal into the delay.

please make sure you have the high and low pass dials so they are letting out the relevant bandwidths, as they are in the feedback loop, thus allowing you to eq out certain frequencies as they feedback, to creating that dub echo sound. if the high pass is all the way up then your filtering out the whole signal so nothing will get fed back into the loop, this could explain why sometimes you arent hearing anything if the high pass dial is all the way up. a good setting for the low and high pass would be to have the high pass around 300/400 hz and the low pass around 4 khz.

the feedback also controls the reverb tail. just remember that the high and low pass control the eq tones of the feedback.


hope this helps.

zeepster wrote:

heavensdaw wrote:I also think that your other video of the delay was 'better' than the last one you posted up.. In 'better' I mean the sounds you created and the general flow of video overall..

Hd

Funny that you say that. When i was watching the 2nd video i felt that in the first one the effect sounded better, i also preferred the simpler GUI look.

yeah, fair comment, but sadly i'm a sucker for pastiche http://www.synthservicemelbourne.com.au ... o-sale.jpg reason why i went for the new GUI.

Cheers Ned! You da man

Hd

it really is more than a echo and a lofi reverb. its a full on sound destruction device and evolving sound design tool.

if you've ever owned an analogue delay unit, guitar pedal or something, you'll know that cranking up the feedback and letting rip with the delay time can generate weird loops that change over time.

if you've ever had the chance to plug a delay unit into a mixers effects loop, run it back into a new channel and feed it back into itself, whilst playing with the eqs, you get evolving tones as the delay feedbacks.

this was something i always thought was lacking with abletons delays, which i think are too digital, and even though setting up a ping pong delay, routing it back into a new channel via some eq then feeding it back into itself can achieve much the same result, it would take around 10 or 20 times as long to set up as using the Dirty Echo, which will give you screaming dubbed out clouds instantly.

rave hard.