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Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:19 pm
by glitchrock-buddha
I must be losing my sense of irony.

I couldn't tell if that song was some kind of satire I didn't quite get or if it was just a 100% serious song.

Similarly I couldn't tell if John Gordon's posts were being ironic and making fun of people who make posts like that or if those were honest sentiments.

Teh internets. I give up.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:31 pm
by john gordon
I didn't even watch the video but I just know it must suck being from that twat.. Have a beautiful day.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:55 pm
by EyalAmir
rap masta rj wrote:Man Jordan ruddess is my idol. I'd love to know what synthesizer he was using with that.
The sound came from the Korg Kronos (wired to the Push with midi), using one of Jordan's own sounds.
john gordon wrote:I didn't even watch the video but I just know it must suck being from that twat..
I'm sorry you don't like Jordan's music... But actually that video is coming from me. :) Jordan is just guest on the track.
glitchrock-buddha wrote:I couldn't tell if that song was some kind of satire I didn't quite get or if it was just a 100% serious song.
It's quite serious... but of course has some humor in it!
donmich wrote:They were all great.
I hate outstanding musicians.
LOL!
infernal.machine wrote:I am a HUGE Jordan Ruddess fan, but this is complete crap.
We'll try to do better next time then!

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:15 pm
by glitchrock-buddha
EyalAmir wrote:
glitchrock-buddha wrote:I didn't even watch the video but I just know it must suck being from that twat..
It's quite serious... but of course has some humor in
I didn't say that. I don't think I would say something quite so douchy.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:17 pm
by EyalAmir
Oh sorry! Got that quote wrong. Fixing it now. :)

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:45 pm
by john gordon
Sorry I'm douchey too.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:21 am
by paradiddle
FU very much JG! Lame ass JR wannabee. :twisted:

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:01 am
by Oxix52
This was really great. I really enjoyed the music and video production. Jordan has been one of my favorite keyboard players for many years now. Great work Eyal!

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:28 am
by EyalAmir
Oxix52 wrote:This was really great. I really enjoyed the music and video production. Jordan has been one of my favorite keyboard players for many years now. Great work Eyal!
Thank you! :) I appreciate it.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:39 am
by randallp
Good job all of you - reminded me a bit of classic Scritti :-) It's good to hear something with some musicianship as oppposed to just the usual samey knob-twiddling repetitive "grooves"

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:44 am
by yur2die4
I dug the fun loving free flowing vibe you created. Especially considering the limitations you were exposed to via the specific technique you chose to do. And even after all that, it was an engaging listen :)

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:17 pm
by bhoke
I enjoyed the video. It is refreshing to see people who actually play instruments and do something original.I don't understand why so many people feel the need to be so hostile. It's OK to not like something but why be so nasty about it? It was also cool to catch a glimpse of some of the possibilities of Push as an actual musical instrument.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:26 pm
by artpunk
Hey EyalAmir, I liked the video too, I liked the other tracks you have up as well & started following your youtube channel, I like the eclectic influences you bring into your work & the humour. Great stuff!
:D

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:39 pm
by randallp
Eyal, how did you get that great multi-voice (how many voices?) lick down? Details please?
All with the one mic too..

And as for JR, well, I'm just not speaking to him. So cool - was he using any auto-octave wizardry (a la Geo) or just huge whammying?

And also, nice video editing? FCP-X? Synched multicam with cuts and transforms? Who did that and how?

All-in-all, great stuff. Keep it up.

Re: Jordan Rudess rocking the Push

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:02 pm
by EyalAmir
randallp wrote:Good job all of you - reminded me a bit of classic Scritti :-) It's good to hear something with some musicianship as oppposed to just the usual samey knob-twiddling repetitive "grooves"
Thank you! I have to say I don't know who Scritti is though.
bhoke wrote:I enjoyed the video. It is refreshing to see people who actually play instruments and do something original.I don't understand why so many people feel the need to be so hostile. It's OK to not like something but why be so nasty about it? It was also cool to catch a glimpse of some of the possibilities of Push as an actual musical instrument.
Thank you! Well, I'm not offended. Music is always bringing up different kinds of emotions, especially if (like in this case) someone already had some bad experiences with one of the participants other works... I actually enjoy seeing people's true reactions rather than sugar coating it.
artpunk wrote:Hey EyalAmir, I liked the video too, I liked the other tracks you have up as well & started following your youtube channel, I like the eclectic influences you bring into your work & the humour. Great stuff!
:D
Oh awesome!
randallp wrote:Eyal, how did you get that great multi-voice (how many voices?) lick down? Details please?
All with the one mic too..

And as for JR, well, I'm just not speaking to him. So cool - was he using any auto-octave wizardry (a la Geo) or just huge whammying?

And also, nice video editing? FCP-X? Synched multicam with cuts and transforms? Who did that and how?

All-in-all, great stuff. Keep it up.
When you mention the multi voice thing, do you mean that breakdown part in the middle with the orchestral part?
I'm not sure on the exact number of tracks, but basically I think there are around 24 tracks there, some are just me and Ariel (the drummer) singing individually, some are us singing together, some are whispers, and some are us just running around doing silly things while singing. We tried also having different placements against the mic so we can make the sound 'bigger'. Eventually I even used a soft layer of some of the closed mic vocals tuned an octave down just to make the sound a little 'bigger'.

Regarding JR's solo: AFAIK, Push doesn't have that 'auto octave feature' that GEO (I was actually involved with the development of that app, as well as SampleWiz) has. So he just played really fast on the existing buttons, we used the in-key mode tuned to Db Lydian (rather than using the Chromatic mode which is more like the GEO interface).

The video was edited using Premiere Pro. Basically everything was filmed with just one camera at a time, always filming the actual performances. The only exception was JR's solo which was filmed using 3 cameras because we were just filming a very long and in depth tutorial about Push which is coming out tomorrow, I think.

Oh, and I edited that video with some help from Ariel.