Machinesworking wrote:myrnova wrote:In my opinion much more than "nearly half the world's population are sympathetic to socialism",
because at least 80-90% of the population worldwide are actually socialist. That is why the U.S. are so scared about socialism and spend 400 millions dollars a year for imperialistic war and have this massive brainwashing antisocialist war propaganda. The so called "third world" is just a consequence of U.S. wars. That is why in the rest of the world the U.S. are hated and considered by everyone "the new nazi". Because they disrespect every international law, U.N. rules, commiting war crimes and crimes against humanity, spreading atrocities and grief, war and injustice everywhere. It's called "capitalism". If it wasn't for the bloody U.S. imperialistic and expansionistic war policy, socialism would be alive and kicking. Unfortunatelly, as soon as a socialist revolution starts in some land, the U.S. invades it and starts terrorism. See South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East... Everywhere. The U.S. are the most dangerous and criminal nazicapitalistic organisation in human history ever. A real obstacle for peace. Unfortunatelly, 80-90% of american population are brainwashed by massive war propaganda, so they don't even realize what U.S.
really are. I hope african americans will start a socialist revolution in America. They are the only ones able to do it. I mean: not Obama

I mean
real african american socialists (the ones who usually get killed by the CIA and are FBI wanted... the so-called "terrorists"

).
First off 80-90%??? are you fucking kidding me? Do you think India, China and Indonesia are Socialist?
Yes Foxcon is a workers collective!

You could easily reverse those numbers and be believable, but even then Socialism has never existed for any length of time on it's own, there's elements of capitalism and/or military dictatorships mixed in for fun and profit. Mostly the West has social democracies with a capitalist economic structure. Not socialist, but a bit better than the states, that's all. Pro tip, because you have universal health care in no way makes your owning class magically disappear. 90% 0f what you say about the USA is true about Italy, and you can't see it.

Infact I am not referring to nations, but of course to people. I don't believe in "nations", for me it is just an excuse for wars. In my opinion at least 80% of the entire world population is socialist. Not the nations in which they live. In the U.S. only african americans have the chance to start a socialist revolution. In Italy the partisans, but U.S. invaded Italy and we know the rest of the (sad) story... Every time there is a socialist revolution, in whatever land of the world, the U.S. start bombing it and introduce a military dictatorship. It has always been like that, expecially in south america (in my opinion it was the CIA that poisoned Chavez), in europe, in africa, in asia and middle east (practically everywhere). They did like that in Italy, too, as soon as they realized the partisans could build a socialist society. They bombed all italian cities, controlled the government with puppet politicians, after the war the CIA terrorized the population with bombs in trains, squares, banks etc. They ordered our government to introduce a massive pro-usa propaganda, through movies, radio, tv etc. in order to make people think they "liberated us". Of course, italians are not that stupid. That is why we dislike americans so much. The same in chile, mexico, argentina, nicaragua, bolivia, venezuela, peru, portugal, cuba, greece, spain, granada, turkey, libya, egypt, iraq, iran, pakistan, palestina, all the middle east, congo, lebanon, el salvador, panama, vietnam, cambodia, philippines, korea, japan, indo-china, afghanistan, laos, indonesia, nigeria, kuwait, somalia, serbia, south africa... etc. (just the first that came to my mind).