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yur2die4 wrote:Yeah it's hard to beat Maschine's browsing and instrument selection and control COMBINED with Push's note input capabilities

panten wrote:Ok you guys are going to hate me for this but I really can't stand JEllis' finger drumming any more.

I don't know what it is; does he turn OFF pressure sensitivity or something? It doesn't feel like there's any subtlety to what he does, it's just a barrage.
Where's the syncopation? Where are the ghost hits? Where are the gaps in the sound? You need space to breathe dude.


..or it might be the sounds he chooses, I can't tell you, it's all a bit cheesy.

reminds me of this <-horrible.


This is more my sort of thing even though it's much more simplistic and using loops and hits. <-click for some Jel finger drumming.
It has more subtlety and swing. Look at the way Jel uses his whole arm and wrist like a traditional drummer as opposed to Jeremy who looks like he's playing a piano.

>To conclude< You should be able to do what you want, with what you want if you're willing to put the time in to hone your craft. Doing everything from a controller isn't always the best option I've come to realise. e.g. with PXT-Live you are able to make MIDI note selections and edit their parameters, but doing it this way is FAR slower than just selecting with the mouse. It's about the end result and the sound you want to achieve after all.

panten wrote:Ok you guys are going to hate me for this but I really can't stand JEllis' finger drumming any more.

I don't know what it is; does he turn OFF pressure sensitivity or something? It doesn't feel like there's any subtlety to what he does, it's just a barrage.
Where's the syncopation? Where are the ghost hits? Where are the gaps in the sound? You need space to breathe dude.


..or it might be the sounds he chooses, I can't tell you, it's all a bit cheesy.

reminds me of this <-horrible.


This is more my sort of thing even though it's much more simplistic and using loops and hits. <-click for some Jel finger drumming.
It has more subtlety and swing. Look at the way Jel uses his whole arm and wrist like a traditional drummer as opposed to Jeremy who looks like he's playing a piano.

>To conclude< You should be able to do what you want, with what you want if you're willing to put the time in to hone your craft. Doing everything from a controller isn't always the best option I've come to realise. e.g. with PXT-Live you are able to make MIDI note selections and edit their parameters, but doing it this way is FAR slower than just selecting with the mouse. It's about the end result and the sound you want to achieve after all.

panten wrote:God you're a hard man to please

Perhaps 'PXT-Live Plus <-click' can give you what you need. If not then get involved with the beta testing that Stray opens to us regularly.

I've not tried this but maybe 'Capture' can do this.. dunno about colours though.. seems like a superficial request.

panten wrote:Rather expensive @ €400 for 2 tiny screens & a jog wheel.

I'd find it hard to justify that to my other half.

thunderkyss wrote:

panten wrote:Rather expensive @ €400 for 2 tiny screens & a jog wheel.

I'd find it hard to justify that to my other half.

I'm with you. As nice as it is to have the sample waveform on the MK1 screen, I don't even look at it. I'm looking at my 23" monitor while fiddling the knobs.

I really don't understand the draw of the smallish screens on the studio.

I've got Maschine MK1 with 2.0 & I've got Push with Live Intro... I bought Maschine to replace my MV-8800. I bought Push to replace my Fantom-X.

Buleriachk wrote:Well, my second try at a Push arrived. About half of the RGB's have a pinkish shade to them, and is about what I remember with my first one, so quality control procedures at Ableton apparently have not improved (this was in a shipment that arrived about 3 weeks ago). Also the LED's on the side are so dim as to be practically unusable in normal room lighting (so I'll have to memorize them).

But I am disappointed and underwhelmed with the electronics interface of the hardware....
you CAN do better, Akai/Ableton ....

Buleriachk wrote:Update: I got the calibration tool, and was able to calibrate the push so that it looks GREAT! (I was trying to run the calibration tool with Live running, which didn't work; running it standalone was the answer...)

So I am a happy camper, for sure.... the matrix looks just like the ads....