Goddard wrote:And waterfalls of Mike's groundbreaking musical compositions will flood the uninventive and dead boring musical desert we are living in, filled with all that glitchy, minimal and trancey copycats that have no sense of harmony whatsoever and will make all the Bieber, Avicii and Kate Perry fans defecate on the spot astonished by Mike's revolutionizing music created with Bitwig! But here comes the truth, Mikey - if you haven't created anything interesting yet, without Bitwig, you may be dead certain that you won't create anything interesting with Bitwig...
Straw man much?
Of course one can create interesting works in Live already (duh), and of course one can also create interesting works in some other DAW already. The point is, the super basic midi editor in Live is one of its weakest points, and it would simply be NICE if it covered more ground: then there perhaps wouldn't be so much need to migrate to other environments for certain tasks involving serious midi editing.
That's what I did, eventually, after something like _seven years_ of using Ableton Live as (practically) my only host software, telling myself these essential things are of course going to be addressed. Live 9 was the point of departure for me, in this sense. Nothing of the sort was included in that release, and I was so sure this was going to be it. A serious midi editor, PDC, yadda yadda... So yeah, some aspects of Live are way behind the times, the way you deal with midi is one of the main ones.
Specifically, I've migrated practically all my "traditional" composing out of Live. You know, recording and comping linear takes, editing multichannel midi instrument parts and harmonies and that sort of thing. It's just
so much more convenient when the tools are actually there instead of mucking around in that most basic editor you can't even use to look at more than one instrument line at a time. And don't give me the "I know it can be done in Live, this and this guy does it" -- because
I did it for years. Of course it can be done. Again, it's just so much more convenient using something else.
And like I've said many times, Live is still indispensable for me, from a sound design angle. Live has got so much going for it... it feels crazy they haven't implemented some of the things that can pretty much be called standard features in this day and age. I would love a new Live version with the benefits of the familiar Live paradigm and routing etc, but with a more robust feature set regarding editing, PDC, overall workflow and so on. Incidentally, at the moment Bitwig seems to offer just that. I'll have to wait and see when it actually ships, eh.
@ Goddard...
