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I would be using the best DAW in the world, the people's choice...
Sonar.

^^^ It's like being rickrolled all over again!

kb420 wrote: I've always been a fan of Digital Performer's UI. I'm surprised that more Live users haven't considered DP a viable alternative.

Honestly it's a great DAW, I really think there are enough hidden gems in it to keep me happy for years etc. but there are what some would consider a few crippling caveats that modern DAWs have that keep the timid away. The main one is no way to split a single MIDI track between multiple VSTs for doing things like splitting a keyboard between say Absynth for bass and Zebra for the upper keys. <-- That one I assume at least by the next upgrade will be solved. It's there I think mostly because older users don't need to do that, and MOTU haven't bothered because of that.
The other is Logic, DP has IMO superior FX plug ins, but nothing like the shear amount of instrument plug ins bundled in Logic, and it costs twice as much at $400 VS $199. To MOTU's credit though it's always $199 to upgrade, which is also true of Logic, and way less than the cost to upgrade 8 Suite would be for me at $299!

I'd play WoW

something like a Korg Kronos when it has an Ableton style sequencer.

Machinesworking wrote:The other is Logic, DP has IMO superior FX plug ins, but nothing like the shear amount of instrument plug ins bundled in Logic, and it costs twice as much at $400 VS $199. To MOTU's credit though it's always $199 to upgrade, which is also true of Logic, and way less than the cost to upgrade 8 Suite would be for me at $299!

Yeah, but most of Logic's instruments are unusable garbage:

ES1
ES2
ESX24
ESM
ESE
ESP
EFM1
EVB3
EVD6
EVOC20

These are about as useful a pair of balls in a lesbian bar.

There's plenty of balls in a lesbian bar; it's the penis thing that's missing...

I would be using Babya Logic Pro because it's light years ahead of any computer production software by decades, even Sonar!

Er, probably what broke my DAW cherry, Acid.
In a parallel dimension I could probably be an FL junky. It has so many cool tools at it's disposal but the interface didn't jive with me when checking it out.

I used to use Orion for most of the time but it just wasn't cutting it anymore.

Oops I forgot about Bitwait that's whassup.

Samuel L. Jizzle wrote: Yeah, but most of Logic's instruments are unusable garbage:

ES1
ES2
ESX24
ESM
ESE
ESP
EFM1
EVB3
EVD6
EVOC20

These are about as useful a pair of balls in a lesbian bar.

Don't agree with that, EVB3, EVD6 are both solid. ES2 isn't bad for a stock synth, and the EXS24 has massive amounts of libraries that do that format.
Plus Sculpture and the Drum machine are great.

Mostly Sculpture though, I wish it was an AU or VST, love misusing that modeling synth!

Digital Performer has no really useful synths built in though, imagine only ESP EFM1 and Simpler and that's about what you get. DP beats the crap out of Logic in terms of built in FX and tools though, there's no doubt. Some seriously professional tools like a dynamics EQ and phase correcting plug ins etc.

shadx312 wrote:There's plenty of balls in a lesbian bar; it's the penis thing that's missing...

I would be using Babya Logic Pro because it's light years ahead of any computer production software by decades, even Sonar!

Er, probably what broke my DAW cherry, Acid.
In a parallel dimension I could probably be an FL junky. It has so many cool tools at it's disposal but the interface didn't jive with me when checking it out.

I used to use Orion for most of the time but it just wasn't cutting it anymore.

Oops I forgot about Bitwait that's whassup.

Pfffft! You don't know what you're talking about! That guy who was nominated for a Grammy in 1982 endorses Sonar. Who are you?

Pro Tools 11, because I love it's interface.

orion platinum my first love

That's right I've noticed you around!
I still think the native synths and fx are excellent and it disappoints me Rich doesn't add Rewire Slave back to it /smh/

Actually, aren't you beta testing Dune 2? Sadly I have not been able to spend as much time with it as I hoped:/

Pfffft! You don't know what you're talking about! That guy who was nominated for a Grammy in 1982 endorses Sonar. Who are you?

A shadow. Earthly illusions such as Grammys are like grains of dust scattered through space from the wind of a moving limb, too minuscule to be noticed by my naked eyes. My reaction to human receiving an award is not unlike the cute awe from hearing a kittens first meow.

shadx312 wrote:That's right I've noticed you around!
I still think the native synths and fx are excellent and it disappoints me Rich doesn't add Rewire Slave back to it /smh/

Actually, aren't you beta testing Dune 2? Sadly I have not been able to spend as much time with it as I hoped:/

Pfffft! You don't know what you're talking about! That guy who was nominated for a Grammy in 1982 endorses Sonar. Who are you?

A shadow.

Sadly, I'm beginning to think that Dune 2 is an urban legend.

Nah, they always go over deadline. They need to improve the GUI anyway.

shadx312 wrote:That's right I've noticed you around!
I still think the native synths and fx are excellent and it disappoints me Rich doesn't add Rewire Slave back to it /smh/
Actually, aren't you beta testing Dune 2? Sadly I have not been able to spend as much time with it as I hoped:/

same thing here