Serious Rendering problem in ver 5

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:00 am

well I am still NO luck with rendering. I get glitches sometimes on the first note and there will be the odd midi note that comes in late. Sometimes the FX returns are not in the mix, ticks, odd little noises here and there that i am not familier with, short birst of screetching noise in the middle one time and the list goes on and on. I have tried turning off my third party plug's to narow things down and it seems to be that allmost all of them are causing me problems

The e-phonic Drumatic 22 seems to have timing issues (only when rendering) And it seems that my powercore card plugins cause random problems. I did not have time today to turn on and off each of my UAD-1 plugins and re-render each time like i tried doing with my powercore plugs just to try and see what if any of them where causing problems. Trouble shooting this stuff takes for ever and frankly I dont feel that I should have to. I am pretty anoyed with this as these problems where not happeninig to me in 4.13. I spent 3 hours today doing what should have taken 4 min.

Not good.

ct43 · Post by **ct43** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:06 am

is yours from a track you started in the beta Atomic?

DJRetard · Post by **DJRetard** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:16 am

It happened again.
I cant reproduce it. This time I think the cause was a third party VST. A free autopanner vst thing. When audio passed through it at various points in the track I would get glitches. Not like the white noise I previously got when rendering.

I rendered again and all was fine.

ct43 · Post by **ct43** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:23 am

was this from a track started in beta or a fresh L5 tune?

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:29 am

this time it was from a track that was fresh in live 5.01

I have been goin trough and turning off different plugs to see what is causing problems. It seems that the e-phonic Drumatic22 is just fine. Also all the powercore reverbs worked ok as well as the EQ. The Powercore virus came in late on one render but played fine after that. I then rendered it again and the virus came in fine. So I gues the Powercore virus is a little flaky. The impOSCar is all good. And now i just tried to turn on the UAD plugs and render and it locked up my computer. I am trying it again to see if it will work.

ct43 · Post by **ct43** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:32 am

man, thats bad news... Ableton for me has always been the program that doesnt have problems like this... ill have to keep checking my renders for problems..

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:57 am

well it rendered this time without locking up. I get a lound glitch at the begining of the render and then all is well untill all my changeups start happening. It seems that the glitches and errors happen around times where thigns are coming in and out of the mix. It seems as if when the devices are being turned on and off there are some errors happening. At least all my plugs work at the moment so I guess i can count myself lucky.

DJRetard · Post by **DJRetard** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:49 am

ct43 wrote:was this from a track started in beta or a fresh L5 tune?

No this was one in the official release. But like I say I think this one was due to the 3rd party autopanner. Random not reproduceable.

distraub · Post by **distraub** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:19 pm

I am not sure if this helps anyone out, but I started a remix in Live 5.01 and had a lot of vsti's in it... 5 z3ta+'s 3 vanguards, 2 absynths, reaktor, + a few impulses and tons of audio tracks... by the end of the track I had cpu to 99% at some points. and could hardly play it.

When I rendered the track it was flawless, to 24bit audio 44khz.

so on my end things I start in 5.01 render fine.

-d

tylast · Post by **tylast** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:50 pm

Has anyone tried to turn on Delay Compenstaion in the Options? It worked out some of the issues I've read here.

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:33 am

yep its on

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:50 pm

Im getting this with 5.01, thats all i had after 4, no betas. i cant understand why its happening. does this mean that its not possible to render using 3rd party plugins?

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:01 pm

I am still not having decent renders in live 5.01 and I have tried many things. When I turn off ALL my plugins things seem to render ok. At first I thought it was my Powercore virus, but it was not that. Ok long story short I think it may be due to a combination of plugins. Like using my UAD compressors on impulse. The anoying thing is it is different each time I render so getting a solid bug report is VERY hard. I have spent many hours not trying to track down what is causing these clicks im my tracks. It is also happening when I resample the tracks. For example I will resample the entire track wile listening and there will not be a single glitch but when I play back the recording there are some clicks in it

I have sent two detailed emails to support and have not heard anyting back in almost two weeks.

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:09 am

but Alex said that there is some problem with plugins doing real/non real time stuff...I never had these problems in 4, so why have they appeared in 5?

pix · Post by **pix** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:26 am

Yup, rendering problems here as well. I was only using some UAD plugs for a small project but I got the render all messed up with glitches everywhere.

Definitly not a good sign. Do you think it's the DSP cards that are messing things up or is this a Live issue?