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Slave 2 A Shit System-Some bullshit to read

Why is it referred to as the "Land of the free" ?
Land of the lack of human rights more like...great service though
You can't even take a walk up the street without going to jail 4 it...
and if you try to cross it without asking first then you have to pay a fine!!
Two words "Hitlers Germany"
Three Words "New World Order"

I feel a little bad for peaceful people who had to put up with that bullshit but at the end of the day trash already said it there are far worse crimes happening all the time. I wonder if the same laws now apply to the Iraqi ravers, that would suck ass. I think i'll shut up now.

Peace
The UK is good...I like it here. Its not THE land of the free but its pretty reasonable.

kineticUk wrote:The UK is good...I like it here. Its not THE land of the free but its pretty reasonable.

Yeh....just don't run through the subways in the middle of summer with a jacket on...you'll be shot dead.

utah is an extremely fucked up place, it is ruled by mormons, they r pigs, they should b wiped out

the usa is a fucked up country but a neccessary evil in a way considering how fucked up the rest of the world is around us

the european countries and the rest the world for that matter have just as much blood if not more on their hands

middle eastern countries r extremely fucked up places, they r ruled by muslims, they r primitive pigs, they should b wiped out

white people were slaves to blacks at one point in time, discrimination and injustice is as old as humanity

fuck being a pacifist it will only get u killed

i bet most of u r pacifists

conservatism is good when applied correctly- is bad when used to gain power and financial control but, good for setting your personal values

liberalism is good when applied correctly- is bad when used to promote gay-washing faggot agendas to the disenfranchised youth but, good for learning how to think for yourself

The Offender wrote: gay-washing

pardon?

Komplex wrote:I just read the article and also read the Sherrif's report:

http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News/De ... em=SHERIFF

If you have the mind to look at it from both sides you can come to the simple conclusion that the police knew there was going to be heaps of drug use (which there was/always is) and they decied to make it a good excercise of police power and scare people off from putting on more parties.

I also watched the footage:

They beat a few people up in the process, probably violent people. They didn't look like they wanted to beat up the dj's, probably cus they weren't asking for it.

It would totally suck to have your party shut down like that and I hope the promoters sue the absolute crap out of the people that made it happen.

Morally, this shit is very wrong. On a legal level, when there is a high amount of banned substance use, they can shut down parties whenever they like and they'll get away with it as long as they have the government backing them.

violent people? Like the little girl they were sitting on? We'll see how you feel when you are djing, and rocking a crowd, and a Military Policeman sticks an M60 to your head.

Oh and thanks for your enlightened opinions, Offender. It didnt even take 6 posts for you to come out of YOUR shell.

computo wrote:

Komplex wrote:I just read the article and also read the Sherrif's report:

http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News/De ... em=SHERIFF

If you have the mind to look at it from both sides you can come to the simple conclusion that the police knew there was going to be heaps of drug use (which there was/always is) and they decied to make it a good excercise of police power and scare people off from putting on more parties.

I also watched the footage:

They beat a few people up in the process, probably violent people. They didn't look like they wanted to beat up the dj's, probably cus they weren't asking for it.

It would totally suck to have your party shut down like that and I hope the promoters sue the absolute crap out of the people that made it happen.

Morally, this shit is very wrong. On a legal level, when there is a high amount of banned substance use, they can shut down parties whenever they like and they'll get away with it as long as they have the government backing them.

violent people? Like the little girl they were sitting on? We'll see how you feel when you are djing, and rocking a crowd, and a Military Policeman sticks an M60 to your head.

Neither of us were there. There are two things that could have happened and its probably the latter, she could have shut up and left or she could have screemed and flailed her arms around acting out of control. She most likely didn't respect their authoritah and got cuffed for acting out of control.

However I hope she takes them to court and wins.

ps. the dj's seemed to act pretty calm and it didn't look like they got abused. But maybe they did, I dunno. You'd have to be ignorant or just plain stupid not to comply with their instructions. They have the guns.

I'm not making any more comments on this, I wasn't there and I'm not even in USA. And I'm very glad I'm not (until they bomb us, hehehehe... but then again, they'll bomb their own people sooner or later so it doesn't really matter )

This is F*ed up, plain and simple.
Stupid kids around here trying to relativize things , because "worst sh*t happens"????
Their's always "worst", until it's too late for you to act on anything.
This is the kind of event that just put the foreign policies or bigger event in great lights: If one State can do this at home, what will it do abroad?
Racism/fascism/... start in your own backyard then spread.
By not taken notice of events like this it'll become normal... Sending troops to a rave is alittle much, wich says alot about the conception of security/freedom in the US right now. Police, all over the world, has been like this. That's their "job".
I know the NSA will get all those email, but hey, who cares right

the truth always offends

America = Shit country.

Move.

-Ben

no mr offender - yank twats like you offend
mainly because you have probably never travelled around and experienced other cultures...oh .. yeah .. and of course the fact you are thick as two short planks... christ almighty... i almost want to be violent towards you if there wasn't the inherant contradiction there.. this is quite the dumbest post i have seen for a long time. surely this must be a joke or something by some 11 year old..??

The Offender wrote:utah is an extremely fucked up place, it is ruled by mormons, they r pigs, they should b wiped out

yeah put them in the gas chambers with you
your country is going that way
many comparisons between the rise of nazi germany and america now can be made...

The Offender wrote:the usa is a fucked up country but a neccessary evil in a way considering how fucked up the rest of the world is around us

WHAT???? because of america, you fucking moron!!!

The Offender wrote:the european countries and the rest the world for that matter have just as much blood if not more on their hands

yeah in the past
but america now is by far the world leader in state terrorism
and anyway what a great excuse to go around killing more people!
'well DUH errr somone over there murdered some people, so we think its ok to rape the impverished third world for cash and kill anyone we want, usually in huge numbers, because DUH someone else done it once a while ago, so DUH ERGO, it ERR DUH makes sense ERRrrr DUNT it? look ! look at that mans hands, they're covered in blood! DUH ER, lets kill some people now.'

The Offender wrote:middle eastern countries r extremely fucked up places, they r ruled by muslims, they r primitive pigs, they should b wiped out

yeah anyone who is brown can be wiped out by state of the art ordinance
i think it says that in your constitution doesnt it ...?
does it mention you can rape their country for its natural resources too?
that jefferson bloke sure was a top man sorting all that out...
thanks for your extensive experience you share
thank god you visited all those muslim countries so we can share in your enlightened experience.

The Offender wrote:white people were slaves to blacks at one point in time, discrimination and injustice is as old as humanity

i sure missed that learned point...
you are a mine of information offender..
would you consider teaching me some stuff...
perhaps how to drag a preset onto an audio track in ableton?
i wonder what your music is like
it must be awesome...

The Offender wrote:fuck being a pacifist it will only get u killed
i bet most of u r pacifists

yeah like nicaragua was ready to invade you that time
with its two old russian migs , right ?
and of course saddam was juts about to invade america at the time you went in..
thank god for your foresight america
PRAISE THE LAND OF THE FREE!!!
we in england thankyou for blackmailing us into the war too
im sure german members may appreciate the bare faced blatant business blackmail you pulled on them and the others too..
we didnt understand at the time
but now iraq is on the brink of civil war with 100,000 dead we sure appreciate your foresight!!!

The Offender wrote:conservatism is good when applied correctly- is bad when used to gain power and financial control but, good for setting your personal values
liberalism is good when applied correctly- is bad when used to promote gay-washing faggot agendas to the disenfranchised youth but, good for learning how to think for yourself

where do you get these great pearls of wisdom?
from your great grandad in that trailer park ?
you are possibly one of the dumbest people ever to post on the internet
there should be some kind of prize for this..
im a genuinely surprised you can operate a computer..
i nominate you for dumbest ass redneck hick fuck that can operate windows95.. and good to see you got yourself an up to date operating system there... you sure know quality when you see it...

now can i sign up for your music tech courses pleeeeease??

offender got murked!

this is some fucked up shit

we thought it was bad with the criminial justice bill (uk anti rave act)

but this is just surreal. I'm glad i dont live there. I'm glad i've been part of a few proper outdoor free parties (around Brighton UK) cos they are a reminder of how things should be - no security, no police, just like minded people coming together to dance, chill, expand their minds and have a good time. No bullshit.

no security, no police, just like minded people coming together to dance, chill, expand their minds and have a good time. No bullshit.

i hear that

mosca

This kind of shit is all over the world. http://en.policejnistat.cz/

czechtek 2005,europe, czech republic. 1000 armored policemans, water cannons, gass granades, guns and police brutality. Ordered by prime ministrer!

do any of you Earthlings know of a nice peaceful planet around these parts?
I've gone off this one.