Pictures of youre Ableton experience onstage.

HD1 · Post by **HD1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:45 pm

heh...and heres a performance pic which applies to a small demographic

stegi · Post by **stegi** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:54 pm

RopeyPunter wrote:
stegi wrote:
RopeyPunter wrote: !
I'm sorry
its ok, to show you how much I forgive you I want you to have sex with my mother.

I don't want take advantage of your generosity

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:03 pm

I'm really meaning about club type gigs where it's about the dancefloor and getting lost in the music - seriously, if i'm in a club on the dancefloor or found a spot somewhere to sit back and close my eyes and just listen to the music the last thing on my mind is what the twat in the booth is doing

Sure but what about people on the dancefloor/in the audience.
I also do club gigs and we put a lot of energy in our set, without necessarily behaving in a "lookatmelookatmelookatme" kind of way.

It's more about an energy that you try to spread (including to people sitting in corners, spacing out & listening to the music)

Here's a link to our club site: http://www.spacedogpromotions.com

Note that I'm not using Ableton Live in the gallery, but when I use Live on stage, my attitude is the same and I use my controllers a lot. I'll be using Ableton on stage much more as soon as the faderfox come available but for the moment, I keep my controllers in my studio otherwise they wouldn't last long (Behringer).
I must admit that laptop screens are tricky though as they can easily act as a barrier between you and the audience.

HD1 · Post by **HD1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:05 pm

In my country, when a man refuses to sex another man's mother. That man who refuses to sex will have a bull sex unto him.

the choice is yours, but I warn you that in my country when a man takes too long to choose between the bull and the mother, than it is the man who is the son of the mother who will choose the bull who will sex the man who refuses to sex the mother. The man who chooses the bull in this circumstance will often choose the most angry bull in the village, dosing him with an almost lethal dose of LSD and enough MDMA to keep him aroused for 2 years.

make the choice make the choice

jahnlay · Post by **jahnlay** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:15 pm

He, he

@ Forge Even with club/dj gigs, I feel the performance aspect is the same.

HD1 · Post by **HD1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:15 pm

you take too long too long!

we have given bob the bull his love medicine and he will sex unto you!!!!

joeyfivecents · Post by **joeyfivecents** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:19 pm

looks fun. How exactly did you guys sync the 2 laptops together?

stegi · Post by **stegi** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:23 pm

no no ehehe

...too late!!
ok I'll wear my iron underwear

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:27 pm

I suppose Bull sex could be entertaining, but I dont think it's the be all and end all

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:44 pm

looks fun. How exactly did you guys sync the 2 laptops together?

No syncing and no laptops on those pictures, as I explained earlier in the thread.

My colleague uses vinyls and I play along. I also use my electrix repeater (or Ableton when I bring my laptop) to sample some of his stuff on the fly and overdub loads onto it.

The repeater I find much more intuitive than Live though as I don't have to preselect a tempo so it won't apply any warping when I'm looping.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:20 pm

forge wrote:To me personally I'm really not bothered about this whole "checking your email" syndrome. Who gives a shit??

I totally agree with this. Although I enjoy seeing a performance, I am most interested in hearing the sounds. Especially when it comes to "experimental" music, be it electronica or otherwise.

jahnlay wrote:You guys look like you're checking your email, maybe it's time to consider putting the computer's to the side and using a controller to launch your clips? I was having the same problem and it really doesn't look good from the crowd's point of view, now I'm trying to rid myself of that image and interact with the crowd and my midi controllers. It just seems to cut off your energy and vibe from the audience. What do you think?

But I also agree with you. I would love to get to that point, like Pitch Black, where I do not even have to look at my laptop, but to be totally honest I am just not that good yet. So, that was the main stumbling block. Also, with FEAR the plumber it would have been a little harder because like I said, we started with pretty much a blank slate and just started building from scratch. I did not even preset midi controls, I just assigned them as I needed them. I believe Thomas may have had some midi controls setup but all he started with was one Reaktor patch.

And the point of the FEAR the plumber project was not so much a performance, but more a statement directed specifically to the audience we were playing for. The venue was a show hosted by the non-profit I work for. In a nut shell what we (the non-profit) do is put on shows for high-school kids, to give them a place to come and see music in a safe (i.e.. drug and alcohol free) environment. Many of the bands we book are high-school and young college bands and the audience is the same age group.

I've been working with this group for three years and out all of the bands we have booked there have been maybe three original acts that have really managed to stand out. The rest of them fall into the exact same cookie cutter mold, whether its a death metal band, a pop punk band, or a rock band, they almost always, inevitably end up sounding like everything thats all over mtv.

So, the point of the FEAR the plumber project was to make a statement on american popular culture, to challenge the audience, and to show them that its ok to fall outside of the mold, to experiment, and to innovate - and that it is in-fact healthy.

So.....while I agree with you I think it also depends on what you are trying to do, and if you are trying to send a message then the delivery of the message takes precedence over everything. If the message depends on a performance aspect than so be it. But if you are too focused on not looking "like you are checking email" you can screw up your performance just as easily. If your music has no message, and I think music for the sake of music is totally fine, then there is maybe more room to focus on a performance.

In our case, was our message communicated clearly? I don't think so. But I attribute that more to it being the first time Thomas and I had performed together than anything. I think the kids enjoyed seeing something kind of "out there" and different than what they were used to so in that aspect it was a success. But in the future it may be tighter.

As to the syncing of the laptops, they were synced using two midi interfaces with my laptop as the master and Thomas as the slave.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:41 pm

mrweasel wrote:
looks fun. How exactly did you guys sync the 2 laptops together?
No syncing and no laptops on those pictures, as I explained earlier in the thread.

our two laptops were synced via midi.
worked well.

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:50 pm

oops sorry.
I thought this referred to the picture I had posted.
All apologies

lezef · Post by **lezef** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:01 pm

Hi,

Very nice gallery at this topic here !
Let me show you a great gig I've had last year with my mate, during a big festival of electronic music in France (called "les Nuits Sonores", which can be directly translated as "The Sounding Nights"). I'm the guy with the flashy orange shirt backward !

You can see all the pictures of this great night at this adress :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/indeepdark/sets/281822/

Many thanks to the Architeks at Lyon, Kiki, UssF (great composer at Clafooti's Team) and all friends who were there !

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:02 pm

From this....

To this...

Pictures of youre Ableton experience onstage.

What do you think about this pict ?