which drum machine?

djastroboy · Post by **djastroboy** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:21 pm

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:22 am

rikhyray wrote:Thanks, now understood. Since I hardly new most of these names quick search shows that they are mostly DJs turned producers not musicians, that makes sense, MX was aimed at people who cant play any instrument yet have lots of ideas and club experience, knowing what audience wants etc etc.

Actually, more then half of the names on that short list are musicians. I would also have to agree sure, Korg knows that people who are buying an electribe are not neccessarily the same type of musician who understands the left handed suzuki method... but it's an instrument one and the same.

Benoski · Post by **Benoski** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:16 am

since this is about hardware drum machines, i thought i'd ask

which one should i get? i really like both, but i really cant choose. and if you think one is better than the other, maybe you can say why?

Korg Electribe ES-1 MKII Sampler or Korg Electribe A mkII

gah?

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:10 am

Tarekith wrote: The XX-7's are nice midi controllers, only downside being that they don't have a 'snap' mode. So everytime you change virtual instruments of banks on the XX-7, the knobs no longer reflect the current values they are mapped to. Common issue with non-rendless rotaries though.

I bet I knew you on the xl-7 board. I was mikexl7 in that forum. I was in there all the time. In fact that was the forum that got me into forums. I still own my xl7 it is the second last sound module that I own. The only other thing I have kept is my Nord Lead2. Just wanted to say hi.

As for the xl7 the lack of the snap feature hurt that box in a big way. I almost never use it. If I ever needed a HUGE bad again I would boot it up. But I prefer programing my sounds on the computer.

Peace

joesapo · Post by **joesapo** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:13 am

I was mikexl7 in that forum. I was in there all the time.

Yeah you were... I got my XL-7 back around '02 and it was always you, realm and Aaron E. back and forth...

Although, thanks to you guys, I know my XL pretty much inside out.

I didn't post much back then, but I did get my name in the Command Station FAQs a couple of times with some tips... Hell, fuckin' preset patchcords still give me nightmares...

Yeah, the lack of encoder knobs on the CS series is definately one of it's downfalls, but I don't think I could ever give it up. Hell, I'm even thinking about picking up a PX-7 and using the XL for spare parts...

Or I guess I could get a second mortgage and go MachineDrum...

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:25 pm

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:IOr get a Clavia Micro Modular and build you custom modular drum synth!

excellent advice, the micro modular sounds EXCELLENT, with a simple controller, such as 16 knobs or 16 faders at least, and you've got a killer set-up for cheap. use a cpu to help you create your drum machines/patches and save them as presets on the modular, now you can abandon the cpu if you want and just use your 16 knobs or faders for sequencing, and any other controllers you can get for other parameters. such as morph control, which is way kool.

i got my micro modular on ebay for 200 euro, leaving you 300 euro to spend on an 'interface' - so for 500 total you could have dedicated drum machine (of sorts) tailor made to your tastes in interface at least. Not to mention the huuuuuuuuuuuge amount of modular patches available, waiting to be molded into your own drum machine creations.

I use a couple of fader foxes for live, I think I'll get to work on making them interface a modular patch.....

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:32 pm

Mike Goodwin wrote: I bet I knew you on the xl-7 board.
Peace

Yeah man, I was rEalm back then, so if you were on the XL-7 list, I'm sure oyu knew me

scientist · Post by **scientist** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:07 pm

i'd say your best bet is to work your way up to a mchine drum through some cheaper options first...buy stuff used off ebay, play with it for a month or two, and if you don't like it resell it and trade up to the next thing on your list.

i think a micro modular is an awesome idea...if you don't need sampled drums. they're affordable and ridiculously flexible. but then for it to function as a full on drum machine it can't be considered stand alone.

i also have an esx1 and emx1...these things are really fun and dead easy to get great sound from. but they are not particularly flexible. don't believe people who say they aren't for professionals (ahem!). i am one and these things get used all the time. plus they're cheap as dirt for what they do.

next step up is an mpc...but these are definitely more for sampling and recording drum pad performance. pretty unneccessary if you just want to step sequence synthetic drums.

just take some time and step up through the list...its the best way to find what you like best. hell, for the price of a machine drum you could get an mpc, micromodular and emx1! if in a few months you don't like them, resell and grab the machine drum. you've only lost a few bucks to ebay fees and depreciation (consider it a rental fee), and you never hav to wonder again if you made the right choice.

err_fatale · Post by **err_fatale** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:44 pm

ORIGINAL ROLAND tr808!!!!!!

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:33 pm

Tarekith wrote:
Mike Goodwin wrote: I bet I knew you on the xl-7 board.
Peace
Yeah man, I was rEalm back then, so if you were on the XL-7 list, I'm sure oyu knew me

XL7 forum big it up

lol small world. I started the forum for sound design with the emu synths. I opened it up to all types of sound creation. The group never got going though. I think it is still there. And a big hello to joesapo, nice to know that our constant posting helped.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:41 pm

theque wrote:

also any thoughts on the Korg Electribe•R mkII

i have the mkI, love it and use it for pretty much all my drum programming, the sounds are OK-ish but not the most exciting ones in the long run, i found. but it's incredible nice for creating midi beats with a hell lot of human groove.

soundwise for techno / house / breaks i say JOMOX

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:01 pm

I used MX till last night, it is good but has its limits,sound, programming, no velocities. and does not integrate well with Live or any other software. It is great for the money, specially for live use but I need more.
I followed this thread, seriously considered MPC 1000 but I will get new 808 - seems to have tons of features - demo impressed me. Will report once I get it - day after since Monday is holiday in Germany.

jbuonacc · Post by **jbuonacc** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:48 am

thelike5 wrote:
I am really curious about "everyone who is everyone" could you throw some names.

Steve Bug, Luciano, Ricardo Villalobos, Autechre, John Tejada, Andrew Weatherall, Richie Hawtin, Bright Eyes, New Order to name just a few. As this list points out, the EMX1 is used by such a wide ranging palette of artists which highlights the fact that you can really tweak this machine to produce all sorts of sounds suitable for a lot of different genres of music.

Autechre? Richie Hawtin? New Order? where the hell did you get this list from? i've never heard of these guys using any Korg Electribes. wtf?

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:28 am

Autechre would've just sampled a loop off it and fucked it up beyond recognition. Who's to say?

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:08 pm

jbuonacc wrote:
thelike5 wrote:
I am really curious about "everyone who is everyone" could you throw some names.

Steve Bug, Luciano, Ricardo Villalobos, Autechre, John Tejada, Andrew Weatherall, Richie Hawtin, Bright Eyes, New Order to name just a few. As this list points out, the EMX1 is used by such a wide ranging palette of artists which highlights the fact that you can really tweak this machine to produce all sorts of sounds suitable for a lot of different genres of music.
Autechre? Richie Hawtin? New Order? where the hell did you get this list from? i've never heard of these guys using any Korg Electribes. wtf?

I gave MX serious try meanwhile, because I like it so much, programmed lots with it and... no way , while it is fun and I used it live and for some quick buck "productions" where quality/ time is not really paid ( dance/exercise music) but spent more then enough time to realise you cant get professional results due to sound limitations, despite many "options" in the end it is all "almost"
If I had a child would keep it but since i dont it is on Ebay.
I wont even bother to sample, archive or whatever my works with MX.
Cannot see why anyone would even boither to sample it, there are 1001 more interesting sounds around.
however it is very nice box for DJ with limited knowledge of music or hobby musician