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Post by quandry » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:15 pm

Pitch Black wrote:
quandry wrote:how do you like the behringer truth monitors?
the best thing you can say about them is they're cheap - I have a pair and would never use them for final mixing, I find they have a very false sense of bottom end. You think you've covered it all the way down, but play it on another system and eek, that's not what I thought I was doing... so ok-ish for programming on, but not great for mixing IMHO.

the best thing you can say about them is they're cheap... :?
thanks, good to know--would you say they over-exaggerate the low end, or underexaggerate it, or just plain get it wrong?
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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:18 pm

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wilxon wrote:by the way, if i get an anoying tune in my head i think of orbitals Dr Who remix.

Awsome. :o

as im writing this i can hear it coming in. :wink:

ahh bliss.
:P 8)
how do you like the behringer truth monitors? I'm helping a budget-conscious friend pick out some monitors, and wondered how they sounds.

thanks
Shit i forgot to change that. I know have a pair of Tannoy Precision 6D'd with a TS10 sub woofer.

The Beringer Truth's are good for the price range. I was very happy with them, its when you get used to your monitors and then come across better ones you start to hear the difference. (better being about £700 better)

As a buget priced pair of monitors they are a lot better than M-audio and most other budget range monitors. hey deliver a very flat signal with high definition and sound great. They have 8" cones in them and the bass sounds punchy. The frequency range of them noticably starts at 45hz and ends well above my highest frequency. High frequencies sound nice and sparkley, and last but not least - you really beleive what you are hearing.

the only problem is they sound very bassy if you move out of your listening zone.

I would only reccommend the active ones though, the backs of them have switches to compensate for your room depending on positioning, and it also has a trim.
These speakers are capable of producig very loud sounds without distorting, and they come with an on board limiter which disables the speakers if you are driving them to the point of damage.

Conclusion - for the price i dont think you will find better, the quality is exceptional and they are really not worth selling on. I still have mine and im going to keep them. The saying is that you only get what you pay for - with these i think you get a little more.

Hope this helps.
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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:23 pm

quandry wrote:
Pitch Black wrote:
quandry wrote:how do you like the behringer truth monitors?
the best thing you can say about them is they're cheap - I have a pair and would never use them for final mixing, I find they have a very false sense of bottom end. You think you've covered it all the way down, but play it on another system and eek, that's not what I thought I was doing... so ok-ish for programming on, but not great for mixing IMHO.

the best thing you can say about them is they're cheap... :?
thanks, good to know--would you say they over-exaggerate the low end, or underexaggerate it, or just plain get it wrong?
I think the problem here, especially when producing dance music, is that although they do produce low frequencies they dont go down low enough. My TS10 produces 28hz and upwards, so when producing bassy music with the truths, you are probably producing frequencies you cant hear, so when you move onto a bigger system you may find your low frequencies all over the place.
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Post by quandry » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:26 pm

thanks for the helpful reply! I think you are right--i'm having a hard time finding something worth a salt in the under $500 price range. He's a drummer and often jams with bassists, so some of these 4", 5", and 6" woofers aren't really that appealing for reproducing the low end of a kick drum. Good point on the active ones with the switch and what not--sound like my mackie hr824s--I think the truths might be based on these. Yeah, with behringer you definitely get your money's worth and then some, thank you china!
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Post by Pitch Black » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:29 pm

plain wrong - I find the low-end results when played elsewhere are very unprdictable either way. I'd be the first to admit the room I'm in isn't great... but... it just chasing your tail to get the bottoms right on them.


hope this (kinda) helps. . . they look like Genelecs/Mackie HR's but sure ain't

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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:32 pm

quandry wrote:thanks for the helpful reply! I think you are right--i'm having a hard time finding something worth a salt in the under $500 price range. He's a drummer and often jams with bassists, so some of these 4", 5", and 6" woofers aren't really that appealing for reproducing the low end of a kick drum. Good point on the active ones with the switch and what not--sound like my mackie hr824s--I think the truths might be based on these. Yeah, with behringer you definitely get your money's worth and then some, thank you china!
Yea well, my precision 6D's have 6" cones in them and although they are brilliant - at £600 ($1100) a pair i really wouldnt reccommend these without a sub woofer, my sub cost a further £390 (total £990 or $1800).

reality is, 6" aint big enough. I bought them with the sub with a deal from tannoy, although they are very good, you really have to pay for the difference.

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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:35 pm

Pitch Black wrote:plain wrong - I find the low-end results when played elsewhere are very unprdictable either way. I'd be the first to admit the room I'm in isn't great... but... it just chasing your tail to get the bottoms right on them.


hope this (kinda) helps. . . they look like Genelecs/Mackie HR's but sure ain't
Hi pitch black, the point is here is that they are cheap, you can get a pair for £200 in UK, which is cheaper than most M-audio, and given the choice you have at that budget - your not going to get better.

I dont think genelecs are available at that price range.

If you go up to £300 thought then yu have the Tannoy reveal range which are better. more dearer though.

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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:40 pm

isnt it funny how one person askes a question unrelated to the thread and the subject just changes. :lol: :lol:

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Post by quandry » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:49 pm

wilxon wrote:If you go up to £300 thought then yu have the Tannoy reveal range which are better. more dearer though.
yeah, that's what I told him to get after looking around a bit, but he's trying to go super low-budget, while I'm trying to convince him that at a certain point (like $200-$300) you are just wasting your money and to save up to get something worth your while for the long haul. Thanks again y'all, and don't forget, the angle is a centerfold--nah nah, nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah......back on topic! :lol:
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Post by wilxon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:58 pm

yea, another tune that really gets stuck in my head is the spice girls :twisted: wannabe, :x well ill tell you what you want wat you really really want, dont tell me what you want what youreally really want :twisted: aaaaggggghhhh!!!!!!


doctor who again
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