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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:03 am
by DeadlyKungFu
djshiva wrote:^^^
did u use the BCEdit to do this?
You can edit by hand pretty quickly.
- Start with Preset 1 and change every knob's channel # to 1 or 16 or whatever.
- Then assign CC#s to every control from 1 to whatever. It really helps to map it out so you can check your work. (I used an Excel spreadsheet, I'm a dork like that)
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Copy Preset 1 to Preset 2 <- Copying whole presets saves tons of time.
- Change the CC#s in preset 2 to wherever preset 1 left off.
- etc.
Then in Live it doesn't take too long to MIDI learn all the controls and set that as your default template.
I kept the top of my BCR the same controls, so I only ever set the channel and cc#s in preset 1 and they were carried over to every preset. Stuff like BPM, Quantise, A/B Fader, Solo Level, Master Level, scene scroll/launch, track on/off and clip launch.
I've got 4 days off, I should post my .als and BCR settings, it could at least be a start for people.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:19 am
by djshiva
DeadlyKungFu wrote:djshiva wrote:^^^
did u use the BCEdit to do this?
You can edit by hand pretty quickly.
- Start with Preset 1 and change every knob's channel # to 1 or 16 or whatever.
- Then assign CC#s to every control from 1 to whatever. It really helps to map it out so you can check your work. (I used an Excel spreadsheet, I'm a dork like that)
-
Copy Preset 1 to Preset 2 <- Copying whole presets saves tons of time.
- Change the CC#s in preset 2 to wherever preset 1 left off.
- etc.
Then in Live it doesn't take too long to MIDI learn all the controls and set that as your default template.
I kept the top of my BCR the same controls, so I only ever set the channel and cc#s in preset 1 and they were carried over to every preset. Stuff like BPM, Quantise, A/B Fader, Solo Level, Master Level, scene scroll/launch, track on/off and clip launch.
I've got 4 days off, I should post my .als and BCR settings, it could at least be a start for people.
yes please! i have not quite gotten the hang of setting this thing up yet. i usually just set up everything in ableton with my uc33, so this is a bit more in-depth than i am used to. perhaps seeing some templates and such might jog my brain...
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:32 am
by debu
I just received one today... If you'd post some files up dkf that would be very cool.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:59 am
by mike holiday
DeadlyKungFu wrote:- Start with Preset 1 and change every knob's channel # to 1 or 16 or whatever.
- Then assign CC#s to every control from 1 to whatever. It really helps to map it out so you can check your work. (I used an Excel spreadsheet, I'm a dork like that)
- Copy Preset 1 to Preset 2 <- Copying whole presets saves tons of time.
- Change the CC#s in preset 2 to wherever preset 1 left off.
- etc.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:04 am
by mike holiday
i program knob #1 to cc #1 and knob 2 to cc #2 etc. on midi chanel 1
and button # 1 to cc#1 ect on midi ch 2
then when i copy the preset to the next i only need to change midi chanel
keeps it easy to edit as well!!
also
for the top 8 knobs, if you assign the push button encoders to the same cc ans the knobs, you can use them to punch in and out..works great for volumes and sends .. especially since you can set the punch in to whatever value you want!
but damn after 2 years i busted a knob off
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:11 am
by djshiva
oh my friggin god i feel dumb.
i can assign stuff thru ableton, but i have read the manual backwards and forewards and just feel mighty clueless about using the BCR2000 itself to assign stuff.
*hangs head*
fuuuck.
*edit* ok so i figured out how to use edit mode, but i am still not quite getting it to do what i want. grrrr...
got the buttons to toggle clips off and on, but i have to hit the button twice to toggle off, and the lights are not going along with this process.
gonna be a looong weekend of experimenting...
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:10 am
by DeadlyKungFu
djshiva wrote:but i have to hit the button twice to toggle off, and the lights are not going along with this process.
Try setting both the high and low limits of the control change to 127. When you tap it twice it's only responding to 127 being sent, so it ignores 0 being sent.
As for the light lighting up the correct way, hit edit on the BCR then the button and then mess with the BCR encoders to the far right. I don't have it memorised how they work but they BCR can do different behaviors.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:42 am
by Krugger
Correct
127 for both states
and it's the 6th encoder to set Toggle to ON
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:22 pm
by djshiva
i have parameter and val 1 set at 127, but it does not allow me to set val 2 at all when in note mode. ??? toggle is on.
i actually used the bcfredit program to get it to work at all. edit mode was just making me crazy...
anything amiss with my settings?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:27 pm
by Krugger
dont use note mode
use cc mode
ok, follow this step by step and you'll get it working:
1) turn your clip Launch mode to Toggle
2) Get into edit mode on the BCR on the button you wish to configure
3) 1st knob > CC
4) Val1 = 127
5) Val2 = 127
6) Toggle = ON
7) Make sure the button light is off, make sure the clip is stopped
Now hit button, light goes on, clip starts
Hit again, light goes off, clip stops
Kr
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:09 am
by djshiva
yay!
thanks!!!
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:48 am
by Krugger
glad u got it working
thank f*ck for that!!!!
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:12 pm
by elemental
Does anyone know a similar trick for mute / solo???
I've tried before but with no luck .. just want the light to follow mute and solo, so I have a quick visual reference when playing out.
Thanks
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:24 pm
by djshiva
elemental wrote:Does anyone know a similar trick for mute / solo???
I've tried before but with no luck .. just want the light to follow mute and solo, so I have a quick visual reference when playing out.
Thanks
i would assume the same concept would hold true for mute/solo??
edit: yup. same idea works just fine.
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:01 pm
by elemental
djshiva wrote:elemental wrote:Does anyone know a similar trick for mute / solo???
I've tried before but with no luck .. just want the light to follow mute and solo, so I have a quick visual reference when playing out.
Thanks
i would assume the same concept would hold true for mute/solo??
edit: yup. same idea works just fine.
Just worked it out!!
Thanks