i dont see how people use live to dj

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:44 pm

deva wrote:
Nic Synaes wrote:
wilxon wrote:

Can you do us all a favour before askig more questions.
RTFM

Regards
What does that shit even mean? Why have a forum that advertises itself as being open for all if people are just going to get flamed down for asking a question - if you can't be arsed to respond nicely, don't bother mate...

agreed...

also, sometimes the manual is too much and I do not have enough context to understand as it assumes some basic knowledge I don't have or the explanation just ins't clear, or I am just not getting it. Sometimes a one sentence answer does more good than the manual.

I am being helpfu

if the manual is to much try the tutorials, they will have you doingeverythig in a few minutes as they are actually really really good.

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:46 pm

D DAS wrote:what r u saying, live is sweet for mixing music. i agree, you probably need to warp your beats

http://www.drum-aberdeen.co.uk/Ableton/ ... Track.html

I had no idea that it was that simple. I usually make large groove clips out of all my tracks in Sonar, but you can't do a whole song at one time. Sonar puts a limit on how long a groove clip can be. Also, you can't do it on the fly while the audio engine is running. Live is awesome.

pieter · Post by **pieter** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:21 am

wilxon wrote:
pieter wrote:two questions though -

now i know how to beatmatch tracks.
but what's the trick to change tempo during the set?
right now i stop a song - change bpm on the top left and trigger the next one -
are there other ways?

second (if you don't mind)
i remember a thread about a site with loads of a cappella stuff... the topic seems to be gone? does anyone remember that url ?

thanks!
Can you do us all a favour before askig more questions.
RTFM

As i have been accused of not being helpful - if you want to change the tempo all you need to do is hold a click on the tempo (top left hand corner) and move he mouse up or down. This changes the tempo. Another way is to assign a midi control from a midi controller to the tempo.

This can be done to anything that has numbers in it.

Regards

i know how to change the tempo thanks. you would have known that if you read my question. i wrote "right now i stop a song - change bpm on the top left and trigger the next one".
but i thought it wasn't very convenient to slow down/speed up a song during a dj set so i was wondering if there was a trick. apparently there is one, and i'm lucky that DeadlyKungFu was patient enough to answer my question. and most of the people on this forum are helpful btw.

as a beginner i use this forum to learn some tricks from experienced people - things that aren't explained in the manual. and if it is explained in the manual or in a tutorial, i'm happy with a link, like the one that D Das mentioned.

also, if you're not familiar with the ableton terminology (especially if english is not your first language) it can be hard to find the right keyword in the manual. like: i want to do "this" but "what is it called"?

regards, pieter

njh · Post by **njh** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:08 pm

wilxon wrote:I am usually at the forefront of wanting to help people, but when a thread is started like this one where someone has failed to read the fucking manual there is only one answer.

when the opening state ment from the author contains "tried to crossfade but sounds awfull" and "why not use cubase to DJ"

The author has clearly not read the manual, taken any tutorials, or even used cubase or any other sequencer for that matter when he also states that "live is just a sequencer".

The only help i can offer is

RTFM

If i see a thread i can help in i will. This thread is just a piss take.

i read the manual..
a manual is written as a basic solution to get some one started using a program. i have been using live for years but never as a dj tool. i am not a dj. i figured if i own something that alot of dj's use why not at least try to see how they use it.
i could care less about "trolling " or "taking the piss" (whatever that meens).
so as for the help you are offering, i would rather of had you not even respond.

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:33 pm

The reason i described this thread as a piss take is for several different reasons.

1 - if you think live is just a sequencer like cubase or logic then you either have never used cubase and logic, or you have never used live.
The 2 types of programs are in my opinion incomparable. I think in this case you have never used cubase.

2 - If you have never used cubase, then why bother trying to compare it to live, why bother trying to suggest that you can Dj with cubase. The simple fact is you cant compare live and cubase. I have tried to dj with cubase, before live came out - and its just not possible to do to the extent that live does.

3 - if you say you have read the manual, done the tutorials, etc etc, why dont you get it - i have looked at a couple of your other replies and it seems to me that you would really like to be able to dj with live.

What i would like to say to everyone new to ableton. Look to the forums for help, that is fine and its a great community here, but the tutorials are the best things to get you started, step by step guide, and you are away.

and NJH and anybody else for that matter - dont come attacking me if a) You cant do it & b) just because may i think the best advise is to read the manual.

BTW the best way to learn how to DJ is to play decks (mentioned before i know) because you start listening for elements of tracks that mix well together. DJing is not about the format in which it is presented - its about what comes out of the speakers, and the visual performance of the DJ (people on laptops with a mouse are not dj's, just track selectors)

Regards.