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zappen wrote:Cris J yes you seem to be racist against some music or people that you don't like(hardcore evangelists) , you seem to have a little closed mind imoh... things are changed.

Not that you're point is lost entirely or anything, but 'racist' means against a race, specifically based on color, and to a degree on ethnic origin, if you feel somebody is being biased based on religion, or general taste etc. it's prejudiced or bigoted.
The reason I think so many people make this linguistic mistake is because the jewish people are not only a religious sect, but also an ethnicity. Not all jews have their origins in the middle east, but it's assumed they do, and so prejudice against jewish people is also considered a racially based form of bigotry. Since it's the ethnic and cultural component that matters more than religion, and looks.

Anyway, Chris J really can't be accused of racism as much as prejudice.

Machinesworking: you know what i meant

Chris J wrote: well yeah that's my point, I would if they were evangelists.
But if the abes were hardcore mormons they wouldn't have created Live, think!
First I read hardcore morons , and if they were hardcore morons Live 6 would be Live 1 with a different color, and no one would have bought it so it wouldn't have gone as far as live 6

If they had the mentality of Vjo's "creator" they would have stopped Live on version 3 because they wouldn't have liked people to request for new features all the time and would have found a way to make loads of money and let down all people who had invested their time and money in the software.

if if if... if then else. welcome back to reality!
The Vjo development is pretty active, there is a upcoming update for VjoGOLD released this summer, and if this makes feel you happier, the developer has changed, did i said it already ? the developer has changed

Chris J wrote:
They would claim everywhere that their software is the best and that Robert Henke is making the best music in the world

Aren't Live's boys screaming that all the day?

Chris J wrote: and that all Robert has ever heard from people using Live didn't come close to his own talent.
Robert would have an image representing him as Jesus holding a copy of live, with light coming out of it, but not in a humourous way.
I was really involved with Vjo, and the bullshit this guy was coming up with
was amazing. And then one day went on his personal page as he was keen to people visiting it, and there was this "20 proofs that evolution never happened and Darwin is a moron " kind of thing. Don't know if it's still there, went there only once.

Jesus was in his Avatar, you got evangelized by that? lol we have our own brain...and sense of humor as well

Chris J wrote:
Religious beliefs are OK as long as they're just that. If you don't know what Evangelists are up to, well that's your problem, and there's enough infos about it everywhere without me giving more.

I never saw anything about religion on their forums or in the program itself.. you do?

Chris J wrote: Again Vjo stopped evolving because the brain of the guy was de-evolving and was against evolution - in his life and that transpired logically in his work- and then he stopped development.

The VJ programs still on the market constantly eveolve, so stay away from this one is my advice if you don't have time to waste.

Vjo is aLive and healty !
techincally speaking, your advice, considering what you said in this topic is wortless and based on some bad experiences of your long past..

Resolume is what u want!

stjohn wrote:Resolume is what u want!

oh my gosh stjohn
is evangelizing us !

hambone1 wrote:I'm sure it IS unstable and unreliable for you.

That doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.

true enough but im on the mac as well, what makes it different for you i wonder?

zappen wrote:Cris J yes you seem to be racist against some music or people that you don't like(hardcore evangelists) , you seem to have a little closed mind imoh... things are changed.

racist against some music
yes there's some music I don't like. who's the cretin who likes all music ?

racist against people I don't like
yeah there are people I don't like. Who likes everybody ?

Creationists are no better than talibans. If I said something against talibans would you call me a racist ?
Respect is a 2 way street, when creationists will stop trying and succeeding in regressing the educational system, killing teachers who don't follow their middle aged opinions, basically keep their faith to themselves, use their god for peace not for war, I'll show some respect.

BUT I get your point, VJo has changed, good. I just spilled my guts, admit it was not technical in my description although my fedding up with Vjo originally came from the interface, the fedding up with its maker came afterwards.

end of OT - getting carried away in a forum is a sign I need to get a life again.

i am keen to learn all the facets of vjing, however for now i want somthing simple, not as in depth as arkaos etc etc

somthing like the ambiance feathures of winamp and windows meadia player, but better

i have G-force platinum, however it wont pick up the singal from my sound card for some v v annoying reason (same problem with winamp linein function)

any ideas, eg a simple plug in for live 6?

I haven't tried Arkaos, but lately I've been having some seriously mad fun and losing lots of sleep hours with Quartz Composer

Tightest AV triggering=VJamm Pro