No handwriting recognition? Pah.
I bought a Newton 2100 to play with a while ago, and seriously, they should've dropped the Mac instead.
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Reading a little more into this and hearing about the 2 year contract with Cingular, I find it just a tad bizarre that Apple would have spent years working to get this right (which they did and then some) only to treat it release this as a Cingular service required product. I just can't belive that. The above comment about 6 months makes sense to me but eve 6 months seems like a long time. I suppose 6 months from launch would open all these other service providers to have sell the iphone during Christmas. We all know what buzz that would cause...
Being an admirer of technology as a whole this product totally opens things up for discussions based on where computers are going. Even if this device only runs ilife products can you imagine what hackers can do it? Yikes.
The one thing that I'd be a little nervouse about is the "drop" factor. I'm pretty good with notebooks and even my ipod (I think I dropped it maybe twice in 4 years of owning ipods) but to have a tiny device that you talk on is a different story. I'm sure they will accesorize the hell out of these things and make some kind of harness though!
I'll hand it to Apple. They did this right. Sure the cost is suspect but a killer looking touch device that functons like a nano that you can talk on and run ilife applications? Not bad really. I especially love the voice mails set up like email that you can just touch and listen to mesages and then delete like email. Cool.
Being an admirer of technology as a whole this product totally opens things up for discussions based on where computers are going. Even if this device only runs ilife products can you imagine what hackers can do it? Yikes.
The one thing that I'd be a little nervouse about is the "drop" factor. I'm pretty good with notebooks and even my ipod (I think I dropped it maybe twice in 4 years of owning ipods) but to have a tiny device that you talk on is a different story. I'm sure they will accesorize the hell out of these things and make some kind of harness though!
I'll hand it to Apple. They did this right. Sure the cost is suspect but a killer looking touch device that functons like a nano that you can talk on and run ilife applications? Not bad really. I especially love the voice mails set up like email that you can just touch and listen to mesages and then delete like email. Cool.
Machinate wrote:http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip. ... 2e20d3d75cTone Deft wrote:If Apple made a shotgun fanboys would be standing in line to shoot themselves in the head with it.
Not a bad idea really...
oh snap...The funny thing is, all of these manufacturers have tried like crazy to create the "ipod killer" Zune, Sony Net Walkman (or whatever) Zen Rio so on and so forth. Apple just killed their own ipod with this! Hard to imagine people willing to shell out $250 for a nano when they know this baby will be out in 5 months. I can see people still buying the flagship 30 and 80 gb models just because they simply hold a ton of music and video.
But a nano? A 4gb will cost you $200. Throw in video capabilites, a phone(!) a web browing internet device (emails, etc.) and make it all touch screen(!) and the $499 price point is highly justified.
But a nano? A 4gb will cost you $200. Throw in video capabilites, a phone(!) a web browing internet device (emails, etc.) and make it all touch screen(!) and the $499 price point is highly justified.
There's one thing to be an Apple fanboy, but it's worse to see unjustified Apple bashers. To hear things like the price is suspect, or it's a monoply to have it only with Cingular, etc. is just ridiculous. How much were most smartphones when they first came out? Even the RAZR was $400 or $500 when it first came out (and didn't do one fourth of what this iPhone does) and it was exclusive to one cellphone provider at first (for quite ahwile). In fact, EVERY cellphone provider has phones exclusive to them. Go to Motorola and you well see phones that they ONLY make for Cingular and ones that they ONLY make for Verizon and the same is true for all cellphone makers (nokia, samsung, etc.) So get over yourselves.
The reason Cingular was chosen was for two reasons that were stated, they have the largest network in the U.S. (and I recently saw a documentary about the history of the cellphone and the AT&T/Cingular network really is the largest and most complete) and they were willing to change their horrendous voicemail system for Apple so now we can final go dierctly to what ever voicemail we want regardless of what order it came in; which has been a big issue for many people who sat there waiting for that stupid recording to go through all your old saved voicemails that are about to be deleted before it gets to your most reecent one! (i hate thier current setup!)
But more importantly, the point people are missing is that this, like the iPod (but even more so) is a truly revolutionary technology. Not just for phones (even though it is WAY ahead of ANY communication device on the market) but for computers in general. Just wait until they release the multi-touch Macbook and you guys are finally interfacing with Live using all 10 fingers directly onscreen!
Sorry for the rant, but, come on people, wait till it comes out and give it a chance before you bash it for these stupid little price/ provider reasons.
And to Kabuki the biggest basher, if Jobs said he wasn't going to make a PDA (even though Apple had one of the earlist PDAs with the Newton), he probably meant a straight-forward PDA because he knew that cellphones and PDAs would eventually converge and that's why he waited to make the iPhone. Most people don't buy PDAs anymore because Smartphones can cover those needs, and the iPhone is the next evolutionary step...
The reason Cingular was chosen was for two reasons that were stated, they have the largest network in the U.S. (and I recently saw a documentary about the history of the cellphone and the AT&T/Cingular network really is the largest and most complete) and they were willing to change their horrendous voicemail system for Apple so now we can final go dierctly to what ever voicemail we want regardless of what order it came in; which has been a big issue for many people who sat there waiting for that stupid recording to go through all your old saved voicemails that are about to be deleted before it gets to your most reecent one! (i hate thier current setup!)
But more importantly, the point people are missing is that this, like the iPod (but even more so) is a truly revolutionary technology. Not just for phones (even though it is WAY ahead of ANY communication device on the market) but for computers in general. Just wait until they release the multi-touch Macbook and you guys are finally interfacing with Live using all 10 fingers directly onscreen!
Sorry for the rant, but, come on people, wait till it comes out and give it a chance before you bash it for these stupid little price/ provider reasons.
And to Kabuki the biggest basher, if Jobs said he wasn't going to make a PDA (even though Apple had one of the earlist PDAs with the Newton), he probably meant a straight-forward PDA because he knew that cellphones and PDAs would eventually converge and that's why he waited to make the iPhone. Most people don't buy PDAs anymore because Smartphones can cover those needs, and the iPhone is the next evolutionary step...
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meh.. never heard of touchscreen pocketpc phones? they are around since a while... wifi, bluetooth and so on, so what' so revolutionary? the multitouchscreen? the big memory?genshi wrote: But more importantly, the point people are missing is that this, like the iPod (but even more so) is a truly revolutionary technology. Not just for phones (even though it is WAY ahead of ANY communication device on the market) but for computers in general.
...if Jobs said he wasn't going to make a PDA (even though Apple had one of the earlist PDAs with the Newton), he probably meant a straight-forward PDA because he knew that cellphones and PDAs would eventually converge and that's why he waited to make the iPhone. Most people don't buy PDAs anymore because Smartphones can cover it those needs, and the iPhone is the next evolutionary step...
i think apple is triing to jump on the mobile boat before it's too late to compete, just my opinion
Well, all of you nay-sayers said the same thing when iPod was introduced (since there were already mp3 players around) and yet it not only changed the mp3 player industry, but the entire music industry and the way we consume music. So the proof will be in the future and how this plays out. But yes, the MULTItouch part of touchscreen and they way all of these things are so seemlessly and elegantly intergrated is one of the reasons why it is revolutionary... just wait and see. (Did you actually watch the full live demo of what this thing can do and how well it can do it?)zappen wrote:meh.. never heard of touchscreen pocketpc phones? they are around since a while... wifi, bluetooth and so on, so what' so revolutionary? the multitouchscreen? the big memory?genshi wrote: But more importantly, the point people are missing is that this, like the iPod (but even more so) is a truly revolutionary technology. Not just for phones (even though it is WAY ahead of ANY communication device on the market) but for computers in general.
...if Jobs said he wasn't going to make a PDA (even though Apple had one of the earlist PDAs with the Newton), he probably meant a straight-forward PDA because he knew that cellphones and PDAs would eventually converge and that's why he waited to make the iPhone. Most people don't buy PDAs anymore because Smartphones can cover it those needs, and the iPhone is the next evolutionary step...
i think apple is triing to jump on the mobile boat before it's too late to compete, just my opinion
Incidentally, here is a link to Macrumors forum back in 2001 when Apple announced the first iPod. Read the thread and notice how a couple of people said it would be revolutionary, but most said it was the most ridiculous "too little too late" device that "would never take off" and would "fail miserably"... of course, they were completely wrong!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread. ... readid=500
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread. ... readid=500
This has definately raised the bar by miles. With the amount of hype and speculation surrounding this product it was probably impossible for apple to create something to make everyone happy, they have however created a truly amazing product and opened our eyes to what will come in the future.
As far as price goes, if you base the cost on the price of a mac mini, in the UK the iPhone should be around £335. The RRP of the Sony k800i over here is £349, and you can get that free if you go into a contract, so hopefully we'll see the same thing happening with the iphone.
As far as price goes, if you base the cost on the price of a mac mini, in the UK the iPhone should be around £335. The RRP of the Sony k800i over here is £349, and you can get that free if you go into a contract, so hopefully we'll see the same thing happening with the iphone.
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even if walmart was the only provider of said phones...Next month we have the iphone mini.
In 6 months the iphone nano.
Next year the iphone tatoo.
This phone contains like 70% of the stuff mentioned in patents that led me to suspect a tablet was coming.
Now i'm even more convinced that a tablet is coming.
It makes perfect sense.
Even though you US guys have this cingular thing... Rumors are, that apple is looking to become a provider of a global wireless network.
Being able to sell movies in the desert wouldn't harm their stocks...
The Wifi specs also jut received an update and hdmi is making its way into the world..
Pretty soon we'll see a professional tablet designed for everybody..
Especially for graphical artists. Which would be fine with us music freaks, because of the precision required.
The technology used for that phone can be found at http://www.synaptics.com/technology/tcps.cfm
Still dual touch. But it could be made into grids like the lemur.
Or maybe used for the lemur 2. Who the hell knows anyway
I'm sure this has been mentioned and ignored in this thread at least once, but apple has said they are only using Cingular as the initial carrier, but they will probably expand to other services later.
The release date is clearly influenced in part by FCC certification, so geez, take it easy and at least wait until the product comes out to bash it.
The release date is clearly influenced in part by FCC certification, so geez, take it easy and at least wait until the product comes out to bash it.
