side chain compressor

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:45 am

E-theory, these look very promising! A plain and simple way to send a signal from any point in a track/rack has been a wish for quite a while now. I'll test these as soon as I can and offer some feedback.

Btw, you might want to pitch these in this modularity thread as well, I'm sure there are more of us who will be thrilled

Thanks!

alvaro · Post by **alvaro** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:50 pm

All i want to say is...

Live 6 came with a a great EQ device.... why not macth it with a great compressor device?

Compressor II works fine but i am searching for something more hi-end for mastering and mixing my guitar, drums and bass stuff.

I am looking for doing everything inside Live, with just Live FX and devices. A good mastering suite with quality compressor / limiter stuff would be a gods gift.

Fractal Dimension · Post by **Fractal Dimension** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:23 pm

+1

I agree, Ableton should go for an all-inclusive solution with effects covering everything from sound design to amateur-level mixing & mastering. I'm not asking for the same quality as expensive third-party plugins, but a decent limiter and sidechain compressor would be nice.

davidbayles · Post by **davidbayles** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:38 pm

That being said, a general "follower" plugin which could output control data based on different characteristics of the signal being fed into it -- now, that might indeed be something. That way you could assign a control data stream to any arbitrary parameter in any other plugin, based on the qualities (amplitude, frequency content, etc) of another signal (than the one being effected by the target plugin).

I have an idea for a new plugin to be called Enveloper (or something like that), which sounds like what you may have been talking about. Its controls would include basic ones like threshold, ratio, attack, release, etc., but it would behave similarly to a Live Rack in that you can drop plugins onto it and map that plugins controls to it. For instance:

You drop Live's Reverb device on the Enveloper and map the Reverb's Dry/Wet control to Enveloper. Now the Dry/Wet knob will respond to the track it's on based on the envelope you dial in with Enveloper's Threshold, Ratio, Attack, and Release controls. Basically Enveloper makes any plugin program dependent. And of course, like a Rack, you could map multiple parameters to it as well (like Dry/Wet, Room Size, and LP filters, or whatever you desire). Icing on the cake: SIDE-CHAIN INPUTS.

Imagine this bad boy on a compressor. Not only could you side-chain awesome compressors that don't have side-chains built in, but you could dynamically change threshold, ratio, and release controls! I've run into the situation where I love the borderline extreme compression settings I've dialed in, but can't use them because of a few stray transients that crap out. Would be awesome to be able to dynamically increase the threshold or decrease the ratio for such stick-out/breakthrough transients. This would really allow some deeper, smoother compression...

alvaro · Post by **alvaro** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:55 am

+ 1

side chain / duck input for compressors and gate please

alvaro · Post by **alvaro** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:46 pm

Did anyone noticed that, with any sidechain capable VST plugin you use (Kjaerhus, sonalkisis, SSS, etc.), Freeze funciton will be no available?

I tell this because in case that Ableton was developing a SC solution for Live 7, would be great that they found a workaround to allow freezing 'ducked' tracks

mortenperriard · Post by **mortenperriard** » Thu May 17, 2007 9:17 am

Yes, please. Compresser II should be able to do sidechain compression.

I'm on a mac so those PC VST's you mention are not available to me. I found DualComp for mac, but it's just really crap, sorry. (I appreciate the developers effort, and the fact that he gives it away for free is noble, but it just sounds crap).

Using Auto Pan gives me a ducking effect, that is sort of acceptable when ducking the bass to a 4/4 kick. For other things, like DJ voice-over we need compressor II with a sidechain.

cheers, Morten