Jerry Falwell dead. Hooray!

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Post by knotkranky » Wed May 16, 2007 9:26 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
knotkranky wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote: so it's ok to hate someone as long as you deem them worthy of being hated?
Of course not. I don't hate falwell and I don't celebrate his death, but I celebrate a little death for his ideals. Falwell spreads hate and he is certainly someone to fight against hatred and intolerance. I think most of the posters who revel in his death are actually expressing a win against hatred and not the death of a human being. I have zero respect and 100% contempt for what the man stands for. We want to believe that his ideals have died with him but of course there's plenty more where he came from. Death to intolerance.
awesome man, good to hear. although to be totally honost I don't know much about the dude. I was just trying to make the point that hatred is never ok even if it's a real a**hole.

from the video above I can see that he's got his ideals but I didn't get a vibe from him that he had no respect for human life as others have mentioned, he just has his beliefs on how terrorism should be handled and I might disagree with him but that doesn't mean he's a total as*hole. although he might be.
Cheers mate, here's a few falwell gems. He's a nutter.

AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.

I believe that global warming is a myth. And so, therefore, I have no conscience problems at all and I'm going to buy a Suburban next time.


It is God's planet - and he's taking care of it. And I don't believe that anything we do will raise or lower the temperature one point.

The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country. The idea was that while you can attack a public figure, you shouldn't be able to attack his mother, or is wife, or his children, they are not public figures.

I am such a strong admirer and supporter of George W. Bush that if he suggested eliminating the income tax or doubling it, I would vote yes on first blush.

Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.

Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America.

I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem.

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Post by knotkranky » Wed May 16, 2007 9:33 am

RT wrote:
knotkranky wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote: so it's ok to hate someone as long as you deem them worthy of being hated?
Of course not. I don't hate falwell and I don't celebrate his death, but I celebrate a little death for his ideals. Falwell spreads hate and he is certainly someone to fight against hatred and intolerance. I think most of the posters who revel in his death are actually expressing a win against hatred and not the death of a human being. I have zero respect and 100% contempt for what the man stands for. We want to believe that his ideals have died with him but of course there's plenty more where he came from. Death to intolerance.

You amreicans make no sence. You defend the torture of terrorists that might want to kill you and then have a party at a persons death that you say spreads hate. You can not spread hate more than al qaeda. they are the best at it and stand for your death.
Obviously we make no sense because you're not getting it. It is best pick a poster on this forum and state your specific case against or for them in a concise manner. Your reply makes no sense against my quote that you posted. Simply ask a question.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Wed May 16, 2007 9:36 am

knotkranky wrote:
RT wrote:
knotkranky wrote: Of course not. I don't hate falwell and I don't celebrate his death, but I celebrate a little death for his ideals. Falwell spreads hate and he is certainly someone to fight against hatred and intolerance. I think most of the posters who revel in his death are actually expressing a win against hatred and not the death of a human being. I have zero respect and 100% contempt for what the man stands for. We want to believe that his ideals have died with him but of course there's plenty more where he came from. Death to intolerance.

You amreicans make no sence. You defend the torture of terrorists that might want to kill you and then have a party at a persons death that you say spreads hate. You can not spread hate more than al qaeda. they are the best at it and stand for your death.
Obviously we make no sense because you're not getting it. It is best pick a poster on this forum and state your specific case against or for them in a concise manner. Your reply makes no sense against my quote that you posted. Simply ask a question.
I like bananas, why do you amreicans all hate bananas while at the same time supporting banana smoothies?
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by knotkranky » Wed May 16, 2007 9:52 am

It's like ham. No one wants to kill a cute pig, but they would sure like a nice sandwich..... with some dijon mayonnaise and a pickle, or a nice chicken soup with noodles.

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Post by Amberience » Wed May 16, 2007 10:35 am

Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.
Aint that the sad truth.

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Post by popslut » Wed May 16, 2007 11:13 am

What is all this horseshit about not celebrating the death of somebody horrible?

Do you lot go all dewy eyed when you think about poor old Hitler dying alone in his bunker?

Fuck that.

When shitbags die it cheers me up for days.

Augusto Pinochet was slightly disappointing because his death was probably quite painless and preferable to living out his days in terrifying mental confusion and double incontinence - but still it cost me £100 in chilled Bollinger champagne.

Although one bottle of that is on ice for when Margaret Thatcher pops her clogs.

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Post by Angstrom » Wed May 16, 2007 12:12 pm

popslut wrote: poor old Hitler dying alone in his bunker?
I call "Godwin"

I win!

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Post by noisetonepause » Wed May 16, 2007 12:22 pm

popslut wrote:Although one bottle of that is on ice for when Margaret Thatcher pops her clogs.
Generally, I don't think you should celebrate a persons death either... But yes, there will be dancing...
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by popslut » Wed May 16, 2007 12:30 pm

Angstrom wrote:
I win!
You lose.
Godwin's Law can itself also be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent's argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.

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Post by TomTom » Wed May 16, 2007 12:36 pm

You know what's pathetic? I knew that I could come to this forum and find this thread. Anymore this forum is no different from all of the other rant and run-your-mouth blog sites.

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Post by pilcrow » Wed May 16, 2007 12:41 pm

popslut wrote:What is all this horseshit about not celebrating the death of somebody horrible?....When shitbags die it cheers me up for days.
You're absolutely right. The dangling Saddam Hussein was a bright spot. Hang on to a bit of that champagne for the passing of Castro, too. Won't be long now.

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Post by Amberience » Wed May 16, 2007 1:06 pm

TomTom wrote:You know what's pathetic? I knew that I could come to this forum and find this thread. Anymore this forum is no different from all of the other rant and run-your-mouth blog sites.
Um.. no one said it was ever any different. At least not that I can recall.

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Post by b0unce » Wed May 16, 2007 1:09 pm

pilcrow wrote:
popslut wrote:What is all this horseshit about not celebrating the death of somebody horrible?....When shitbags die it cheers me up for days.
You're absolutely right. The dangling Saddam Hussein was a bright spot. Hang on to a bit of that champagne for the passing of Castro, too. Won't be long now.
whats your beef with castro ?
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Post by Angstrom » Wed May 16, 2007 1:10 pm

popslut wrote: You lose.
Godwin's Law can itself also be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent's argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.
Incorrect assumption as you are not my opponent, I share a similar opinion. I won the thread as a whole because it is 'over as soon as someone invokes Nazis' - IE, there will be no rational debate beyond this point anyway.

Actually I don't like religious nutcases, I'll not be dancing because I can't be bothered - but I certainly won't be teary eyed the death of someone who says:
Jerry Falwell wrote:If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being.
Jerry Falwell wrote: (Homosexuals are) brute beasts...part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.
I have no qualms about removal of people with views like that. I am not bothered that I seem 'not nice' for that view point. That's a subjective decision - but I can only decide for myself.

MY people :relaxed atheists, mature homos, freethinking weirdos, arty fools, recalcitrant lefties, pessimistic ninjas, yippies in action, 'children of Ham' , jews , sordid honkies, erotic dancers, ironic stanits, post-hypnotists, sluts , and even DJs

If someone starts telling me that my people are subhuman and they want to eradicate them, well ... I will reserve the right to be happy when that person fucks right off my planet.
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Post by b0unce » Wed May 16, 2007 1:12 pm

fuck godwins law, and those who invoke it.

...its so fucking stupid.
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