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Tone Deft wrote:

pilcrow wrote:

Tone Deft wrote: I take it the opposite way, she lives such an easy life I wouldn't care if she lost a limb, honestly. I can't feel bad for people in her social class. Then there's her influence on pop culture, shallow example of how to live, she's dumbing down world culture. If your 11 year old daughter told you that Paris was her role model, how would that make you feel?

I was kidding. I think it's lame too. Tell you the truth, I couldn't even tell you what she's known for, other than traveling around with her gal pals and driving drunk.

Thought you might have been, words words words...

I think her 'sex tape' was her rise to fame, never seen it but I heard it's not even a good sex tape, like a half assed blow job.


She got sick??? Bullshit, withdrawal from dugs more like it.

I saw her sex tape, it was pretty terrible. you've got 45 minutes worth of bored sex in the dark for starters (yes they both look bored, and you can bairly see them) then you've got 20 minutes of bored sex on the bed (yes they still look bored) and 15 minutes of a blow job that is rather unskillful but probably the hottest thing on the video just cause you can actually see whats going on. but any girl I've ever met could have done a better blow job video than that.

didn't she do some modeling before that? I believe her beginning of fame was as a runway model if I'm not mistaken.

OK, I just wasted seven minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Still, I now know all I'll ever need to about the wayward heiress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_hilton

I particularly enjoyed the short paragraph about her "Civic Involvement."

Her mama and daddy must be proud.

This is the most annoying thread I have ever read...

1. Most 'white people' (why is this a race issue??) don't like Paris Hilton. Anyone who isn't a 13-year-old suburban girl who dreams of dating Greek shipping heirs, carrying a Chanel purse, and being grotesquely thin, most likely quite despises what she stands for. And even those 13-year-old girls will soon join the rest of humanity in scorn once they grow out of adolescence. Paris Hilton is a tabloid creation. She scratches their back, they scratch hers. Unfortunately, people often read those magazines for the same reason everyone slows down when approaching a car wreck.

2. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the law, or anyone who has ever been caught up in the legal system, knows that the 45-day (or 23-day reduced) sentence she got was a bit over the top. Most people with the same offense spend a week in jail MAX, most don't ever see a jail at all. You can argue that they should, but the facts are that precedent states they don't.

3. Fuck Paris Hilton. Who gives a shit?

Thinktanx wrote:This is the most annoying thread I have ever read...

1. Most 'white people' (why is this a race issue??) don't like Paris Hilton. Anyone who isn't a 13-year-old suburban girl who dreams of dating Greek shipping heirs, carrying a Chanel purse, and being grotesquely thin, most likely quite despises what she stands for. And even those 13-year-old girls will soon join the rest of humanity in scorn once they grow out of adolescence. Paris Hilton is a tabloid creation. She scratches their back, they scratch hers. Unfortunately, people often read those magazines for the same reason everyone slows down when approaching a car wreck.

2. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the law, or anyone who has ever been caught up in the legal system, knows that the 45-day (or 23-day reduced) sentence she got was a bit over the top. Most people with the same offense spend a week in jail MAX, most don't ever see a jail at all. You can argue that they should, but the facts are that precedent states they don't.

3. Fuck Paris Hilton. Who gives a shit?

ah yes, who gives a shit indeed? But...I notice that you are able to identify the brand of purse she carries. Are you a closet reader of People magazine?

LOL!

Nah... I just live in LA, have a wife, and happen to be a bit of a fashion whore myself.

Thinktanx wrote:LOL!

Nah... I just live in LA, have a wife, and happen to be a bit of a fashion whore myself.

Fair enough

I blush to think how much I know about these vapid people. And that's without reading the mags or watching the entertainment channels.

Thinktanx wrote:people often read those magazines for the same reason everyone slows down when approaching a car wreck.

people slow down at car wrecks because of break lights my friend. the original wreck caused a few cars to slow down and then the car behind them slowed down and then the car behind that had to slow down and the car behind that had to slow down.

Johnisfaster wrote:

Thinktanx wrote:people often read those magazines for the same reason everyone slows down when approaching a car wreck.

people slow down at car wrecks because of break lights my friend. the original wreck caused a few cars to slow down and then the car behind them slowed down and then the car behind that had to slow down and the car behind that had to slow down.

ah yes, but that doesn't explain why traffic slows down when passing a wreck on the other side of a divided highway.

Schadenfreude is a natural human response, we're all fucked in the head.

it kinda does, depending on the wreck sometimes people on the other side of the freeway who witness the wreck get scared at that moment and hit their breaks, and then the people behind them hit their breaks, and so on...

one person slowing down on the freeway can cause a chain reaction that takes hours to undo sometimes. if everyone started going faster at the same moment it would undo itself but everyone is scared to start moving until they see that car in front of them speeding up.

Johnisfaster wrote:it kinda does, depending on the wreck sometimes people on the other side of the freeway who witness the wreck get scared at that moment and hit their breaks, and then the people behind them hit their breaks, and so on...

one person slowing down on the freeway can cause a chain reaction that takes hours to undo sometimes. if everyone started going faster at the same moment it would undo itself but everyone is scared to start moving until they see that car in front of them speeding up.

Are you serious?!?

Yes, I live in LA, I know all about slowing down cars and traffic jams. Are you really gonna try and argue that most people don't slow down to look at an accident, even when traffic doesn't deem it necessary... seriously? Maybe traffic makes them slow down, but traffic doesn't make everybody take a peek over to see what damage has been done.

oh course you take a peak, because you're driving slowly past a wreck. I also take a peak at the lines on the road and look at the overpass as I drive under it and I notice the yellow grass and the green grass while I drive. but i can promise you that I myself am only going slow cause I see break lights and I am pretty certain that all the cars around me are going slow because they see break lights as well. in this busy "gotta get there now" world I don't think anyone wants to be driving slow even if there is a glorious wreck to look at that certainly isn't going to cause everyone to slow down for fun. everyone slows down because someone originally slowed down and that is hard to undo.

This natural human curiosity also explains why some of us will watch a video on youtube of the unfortunate weightlifter who hoists a big barbell and blows his entrails out his tailpipe.

I think it's something different than schadenfreude, though, which I take to mean "enjoyment at someone else's misfortune." Looking at wrecks and gross stuff online isn't enjoyable per se.. I think it has more to do with a sort of morbid and narcissistic wonder/dread about our own death.

-Dr. Phil

Nobody gets out of jail because of medical condition, at most they take you to the hospital and bring you right back to jail when you are well enough. Except rich people, they get out of jail because of medical conditions apparently.

She disgusts me, but I also feel sorry for the girl. Not because of this case, but because of who she is. She has problems I can sort of relate to. She must be very fucked up inside.

Christ, I grew up poor and I look at what I went through with the whole drugs/junky/street scene - god only knows what I would have put myself through if I were excessively rich. I doubt I ever would have gotten clean... who knows, maybe I would have. I know it would have been much harder for me. All those nights sleeping on the streets and on shooting gallery floors was what helped me to get clean in the end. But would I have gotten clean if I had a bottomless bank account, a 300,000.00 mercedes and a mansion to go home to?

Maybe I would have, I guess it all boils down to willingness to change. I'm by no means defending the girl, just saying I can kind of relate to being a strung out party animal - albeit not one who is always on TV and who has millions of dollars to burn.

Bottom line is we are all responsible for our own lives and the decisions we make.

Anyway.....

Really though, the entire thing does seem a bit ridiculous. You almost have to wonder if someone out there was trying to teach her a lesson, maybe give her a bit of a wake up call. If so they'd have done well to let her stay in jail for the entire 23 days or whatever. It wouldn;t have killed her.

Whatever happened to her dog Tinkerbell?