So I'm finally ready to spend $1000+ on a pair of monitors..

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Post by eyeknow » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:28 pm

well, see there ya go!

Hey, hope ya enjoy them! :)

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Post by jamester » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:32 pm

Ah, the new 6A's congrats you lucky dog! :D

I love my 5A's, I have no doubt you'll love these even more...keep us posted!
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Post by aqua_tek » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:42 pm

Thanks guys :)

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Post by DJDJ » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:10 pm

If you haven't made your purchase yet, I'd look at Bluesky's Pro Desk 2.1 system. I've onlye heard good things about them

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Post by woodie » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:04 pm

aqua_tek - congratulations....I'm sure it's a great feeling to have finally settled on a good pair of monitors that you fell in love with immediately esp. after toughing it out at Guitar Center. In fact...I'm in the market as well and like you....about the only place I can go to listen to monitors like these is Guitar Center + you're right.....their setup is crap and I figured I'd end up fighting with a rep. when I got there. Father's Day is coming up and the wif is asking what I want.....I'm thinking it's "monitor-time!" ;)

Anyway...I was eying the Genelecs, but also never heard anything bad about the Dynaudio's.....so I'm thinking you may have just done me a favor. ;) I'm tempted to take your word for it and just go for them.

The 6A's are more than I'm willing to spend really as this is just a hobby for me + my home office is small: 8' x 15', but the 5A's are in the right range.

Speaking of the 5A's - Anyone have comments about the 5A Compact's?

Anyhow....good luck with your new set....pop us a message when you get them from Sweetwater and had a chance to run your system thru them.
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Post by aqua_tek » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:33 am

woodie wrote:aqua_tek - congratulations....I'm sure it's a great feeling to have finally settled on a good pair of monitors that you fell in love with immediately esp. after toughing it out at Guitar Center. In fact...I'm in the market as well and like you....about the only place I can go to listen to monitors like these is Guitar Center + you're right.....their setup is crap and I figured I'd end up fighting with a rep. when I got there. Father's Day is coming up and the wif is asking what I want.....I'm thinking it's "monitor-time!" ;)

Anyway...I was eying the Genelecs, but also never heard anything bad about the Dynaudio's.....so I'm thinking you may have just done me a favor. ;) I'm tempted to take your word for it and just go for them.

The 6A's are more than I'm willing to spend really as this is just a hobby for me + my home office is small: 8' x 15', but the 5A's are in the right range.

Speaking of the 5A's - Anyone have comments about the 5A Compact's?

Anyhow....good luck with your new set....pop us a message when you get them from Sweetwater and had a chance to run your system thru them.
Thanks! Pretty happy about it

Anyways I did get a chance to "kind of" check out the bm5a's at GC and they still sounded pretty good. Granted, the positioning wasnt really doing them any favors though, so it was a little hard to judge myself. I have heard and read great things about them though.

I'm thinking they will be more than adequate, especially for hobbyist setups.

I'll hook up the 6a's tomorrow and let you know the results :)

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Post by woodie » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:04 am

aqua_tek wrote:Thanks! Pretty happy about it

Anyways I did get a chance to "kind of" check out the bm5a's at GC and they still sounded pretty good. Granted, the positioning wasnt really doing them any favors though, so it was a little hard to judge myself. I have heard and read great things about them though.

I'm thinking they will be more than adequate, especially for hobbyist setups.

I'll hook up the 6a's tomorrow and let you know the results :)
yeah I really haven't read anything about 5A's....it's always them or the Adam's in the same sentence. I don't know what to do really as I'm at my wits end....I wish there was a genuine appropriate "monitor setup" in every city with all the monitors on the market, but the problem with the likes of GC....they may carry it online, but don't have it in the shop - or the last couple of times I've been there - "there's a problem with the sound system - sorry!" It's really frustrating after you read all the advice of - "trust your ears!!!" - even in big cities in the good ole USA....it's hard to come by a proper setup of (and to test) monitors.

Anyway...yeah, I'm anxious to hear how the 6A's work for you at home.
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Post by jamester » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:25 am

My philosophy about monitors is that basically you get what you pay for, and you should always try to spend as much as you can. This is one of the single most important aspects of your system!

So whether Adam is better than Mackie is better than Dynaudio is better than Genelec is bettter than KRK isn't nearly as important as 1) what are you listening through now? and 2) how well do you "know" what you are listening to/hearing?

So basically, if you are monitoring on computer speakers, or Bose bookshelves, or $200 M-Audio's, and now you're looking to buy something in the thousand dollar range...basically you can't really go wrong. Will different models sound differently? Of course. Will some people prefer one, while others prefer a different one? Of course. BUT - will you be taking a big step up in accuracy and definition no matter which model you choose? Absolutely. And will you get to know whatever models you have, and learn their sonic footprint as it relates to your environment? Definitely.

It's these last points that are the important ones. If you can't listen to them yourself to compare/contrast, find as much info and read as many reviews/opinions as you can and take the plunge based on that and price. A step up is a step up, no matter which ones you choose.
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Post by NewSc2 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:35 am

Congrats on the 6A's! I have the BM5A's -- they sound incredible, but if I could say anything about them is that they're a bit bass-shy. My room isn't that big (12'x15') and no acoustic treatment, but the bass really tails off after 50Hz or so. There are some big "booms" in some CD's that aren't very clear on the 5A's, which would be apparently on most consumer systems, and as such my mixes are usually too bass-heavy in my car or on other speakers.

Been thinking about upgrading to the 6A's or getting the subwoofer. Not quite sure what to do yet, though, as I probably should upgrade other parts of my setup before my monitors.

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Post by woodie » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:38 am

thanks for the words of wisdom, jamester - it all makes sense and that's what I've been doing for the past...oh, 1.1/2 years! (reading reviews)

I don't know what aqua_tek is coming from....but I'm coming from a pair of old Compaq JBL computer speakers that I bought at a garage sale 2 years ago!! They sound great for 'puter speakers, but I listen to most music in the car and when I play my tunes....they sounds like C.R.A.P. I'm dying to get a set of GOOD monitors and yeah....I'm willing to spend upwards around $1,000.00...maybe more, but there's too many options and again, the main problem is - Guitar Center has the best selection, but their monitor setup with the mixing board is also always "not working!"....it's ridiculous that they run a place like that.

I haven't done any formal monitor testing there, but whenever I'm there - I always visit the room for a good 15 mins or so checking out the monitors and whatever music they've got playing.....and there's always a problem if I want to throw a CD in I have in the car. So it's not hard to envision a visit like what aqua_tek went through. So much so...I'm willing to just splurge on a set of monitors based on reviews only.

Anyway....I was hot, hot for the Genelecs 8030/8040's....but I haven't read a single BAD review of the BM5A's - only that they compare well against the "Adam's", which the last time I visited GC...they didn't have Adam's or Dynaudios on the shelves. The Genelecs are very pretty though! It's all driving me crazy.... That's why posts like aqua_tek's....are a relief as he gave a blow-by-blow of his experience at GC.....and I'm sitting in nearly the exact same seat he was sitting in!
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Post by woodie » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:48 am

NewSc2 wrote:Congrats on the 6A's! I have the BM5A's -- they sound incredible, but if I could say anything about them is that they're a bit bass-shy. My room isn't that big (12'x15') and no acoustic treatment, but the bass really tails off after 50Hz or so. There are some big "booms" in some CD's that aren't very clear on the 5A's, which would be apparently on most consumer systems, and as such my mixes are usually too bass-heavy in my car or on other speakers.

Been thinking about upgrading to the 6A's or getting the subwoofer. Not quite sure what to do yet, though, as I probably should upgrade other parts of my setup before my monitors.
hmmm...this is interesting, NewSc2 - as I do some "dance/electronic" type stuff, but I also do rock and acoustic (I'm all over the place!), so for some of the stuff I write.....I need bass too, but not "rap bass", but enough for electronic music. A sub is also on the "get later" list as for that kind of music....I'm starting to believe it's an "essential" to have unless you have the perfect monitor that covers the whole range - but we're probably looking at $4,000 for something like that!
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Post by NewSc2 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:59 am

woodie wrote:
NewSc2 wrote:Congrats on the 6A's! I have the BM5A's -- they sound incredible, but if I could say anything about them is that they're a bit bass-shy. My room isn't that big (12'x15') and no acoustic treatment, but the bass really tails off after 50Hz or so. There are some big "booms" in some CD's that aren't very clear on the 5A's, which would be apparently on most consumer systems, and as such my mixes are usually too bass-heavy in my car or on other speakers.

Been thinking about upgrading to the 6A's or getting the subwoofer. Not quite sure what to do yet, though, as I probably should upgrade other parts of my setup before my monitors.
hmmm...this is interesting, NewSc2 - as I do some "dance/electronic" type stuff, but I also do rock and acoustic (I'm all over the place!), so for some of the stuff I write.....I need bass too, but not "rap bass", but enough for electronic music. A sub is also on the "get later" list as for that kind of music....I'm starting to believe it's an "essential" to have unless you have the perfect monitor that covers the whole range - but we're probably looking at $4,000 for something like that!
Yeah, I do mostly electronic, so bass is essential but the BM5A covers most of what I want, I just had to get used to it. The first few songs I mixed I was adding a lot of bass just to get the thumps going, and I was totally surprised when I listened to them in my car. I've learned to work with the 5a's now and this isn't as big of a problem. It's just one of my reference CD's is Underworld's Dubnobasswithmyheadman and on Mmm Skyscraper there's a big booming kick in the intro that sounds great on good headphones or a good system, but distant on the 5a's. Other than that I'm definitely pleased with the Dyns, and I've had them ever since they were released.

Edit: About the subwoofer vs. BM6A's -- I'm still debating the placement and crossover issues between having 3 speakers instead of 2.

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Post by Verbal » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:21 pm

I've been looking at the Krk's since they're in my current price range until I need and can afford something larger.

Which should I look at? What are the differences between the different models aside from size?

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Post by woodie » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:26 pm

ok fellas....that's it - after spending a good 20 mins on the phone with a Sweetwater rep - I've decided I'm going for the Adam A7's.

I just got off the phone with the fella and because of the space constraints I'm dealing with here, the need for good bass response (46Hz - 35 kHz), I like the idea of their patented folder-ribbon tweeter technology - these look like the ones for me. I also like the fact they have the input volume knob and power button on the front as well. Depth is a tad more than what I was hoping for (11"), but I can work with that and then the width put me over the edge - 7" !!

Anyway....super nice fella and was really a big help as I've been struggling for months eventhough the Genelecs were on the top of the list due to their small size. Right now I feel like a monkey is off my back and eventhough I haven't heard them - I haven't read anything bad about them (incl. nothing bad about the Dynaudios!).....and they're right in the price range I'm willing to spend, so in reference to all the friggin' threads/posts I've read over the past year.....hopefully my search is over.

I haven't ordered them yet....I need to go have a smoke first and look over the A7 info sheet & re-read the SOS Int'l Review of the Adam A7's in November 2006 . ;)

If anyone has any comments on the Adam A7's - then by-golly speak up!
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Post by aqua_tek » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:57 pm

congrats woodie. The A7 looks like a great buy :)

Anyways... the BM6A's are here. And all i have to say is ...


GODDAMN! 8O :o

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