Linux + Live?

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:01 am

PurpleHaze wrote:so what DAW can work on Linux properly?

properly?

BA HA HA HA HA.

PurpleHaze · Post by **PurpleHaze** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:11 am

i mean what DAW wil work withouth crashing, dont you get it?

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:07 pm

thelocalhost wrote:
friend_kami wrote:
thelocalhost wrote:
what the...
http://distrowatch.com/
http://linux-sound.org/
http://freshmeat.net/browse/18/
http://www.ubustu.com/

really, if you can use a bloody search machine (ie google) you can get more then enough programs to justify a change
Where is the Live-esque clone, where's my Audio Units plugins, Does rewire work, etc...

Does this make my point clear?

Wake Up. Linux isn't a variable solution for many users. And if you want to use unix, get a mac.

meh, ofcourse you will be making a change in both software and workflow, but thats something you do each time you switch systems, no?

not sure if au works, not sure if rewire works (why should it when you have jack? heh), but thats beside the point.

the only thing from keeping a user from switching to linux is the fact that you have to re-learn most of your software, since most are osx/windows only. dont tell me im wrong, because im not.
theres tons of audio distro´s out there with a MUCH bigger package then Live, for example, which can do much more then live can, provided that you sit down and learn how to use it.

just like you did with live when you first got it.
oops.

its a matter of personal preferences these days , not about whether linux is a viable option or not in terms of compability, driver issues and whatnots.

PurpleHaze · Post by **PurpleHaze** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:30 pm

Ardour is good, but i will wait till they get midi up and running, when they do i will try it out, if it is up to par with other DAWS i will use it. What you guys reckon? Is ardour any good?

rhythminmind · Post by **rhythminmind** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:54 pm

Ardour is nice for audio but like i said people should check these out

http://www.energy-xt.com/ - Great DAW Midi&Audio - Simular to Live & tracktion

http://ardour.org/ - Great audio editor / mixer - Protools & Samplitude

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - great drum machine

http://ubuntustudio.org/ - Multimedia Linux OS Disto. Comes with just about everything Preinstalled & setup.

http://wired.epitech.net/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=29
- Reason type of thing

PurpleHaze · Post by **PurpleHaze** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:16 pm

rhythminmind wrote:Ardour is nice for audio but like i said people should check these out

http://www.energy-xt.com/ - Great DAW Midi&Audio - Simular to Live & tracktion

http://ardour.org/ - Great audio editor / mixer - Protools & Samplitude

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - great drum machine

http://ubuntustudio.org/ - Multimedia Linux OS Disto. Comes with just about everything Preinstalled & setup.

http://wired.epitech.net/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=29
- Reason type of thing

kool is it me, but ubuntustudio.org is not working for me.

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:36 pm

Is anybody using VSTs in Linux via FST or DSSI? I'm getting ready to make a cross-platform app and was thinking I would have to roll my own plugin format... but maybe VST is actually an option if I'm careful how I code them.

I'll try it out eventually but wanted to know what people's experiences here have been so far... thanks.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:41 pm

PurpleHaze wrote:Ardour is good, but i will wait till they get midi up and running, when they do i will try it out, if it is up to par with other DAWS i will use it. What you guys reckon? Is ardour any good?

I think it would work as a multitracker a la ProTools. Compared to Live I find it very clunky, especially on the editing front, but you can turn a 400 MHz PII and a bunch of Soundblasters into a cheap multitracker with a decent interface, automation, etc. etc..

Funkstar De Luxe · Post by **Funkstar De Luxe** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:07 pm

Even if they did create a Linux version of Live, what the fuck would you run on it? There are very few / no drivers for professional audio devices, and no professional VSTs available for Linux.
It'll be another 10 years minimum before Linux is usable for this kind of thing

rhythminmind · Post by **rhythminmind** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:22 pm

Funkstar De Luxe wrote:Even if they did create a Linux version of Live, what the fuck would you run on it? There are very few / no drivers for professional audio devices, and no professional VSTs available for Linux.
It'll be another 10 years minimum before Linux is usable for this kind of thing

Not true checkout the sound card list.. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

I use RME & M-audio hardware with linux.

Funkstar De Luxe · Post by **Funkstar De Luxe** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:42 pm

rhythminmind wrote:
Funkstar De Luxe wrote:Even if they did create a Linux version of Live, what the fuck would you run on it? There are very few / no drivers for professional audio devices, and no professional VSTs available for Linux.
It'll be another 10 years minimum before Linux is usable for this kind of thing
Not true checkout the sound card list.. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

I use RME & M-audio hardware with linux.

Sadly it is true. Those listed are BY FAR the minority.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:09 pm

The driver issue is just a supply and demand situation, without the demand, manufacturers arn't going to bother with the supply.
There are more people than ever who are starting to create a demand now, the assumption that it'll take 10 years to see a change is flawed, lots of people really want to see this happen and they're not being quiet about it. I think we'll start to see lots of Linux drivers for all sorts of hardware becoming more of a normality.

I guess we'll see soon enough, anyone who's not aware how much headway Linux has made in the last couple of years must have had their head up they're arse.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:42 am

well, my soundcard worked out of the box with ubuntu without any fiddling whatsoever.

and like that other guy said, its just a matter of supply and demand.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:44 pm

Funkstar De Luxe wrote:Even if they did create a Linux version of Live, what the fuck would you run on it? There are very few / no drivers for professional audio devices, and no professional VSTs available for Linux.
It'll be another 10 years minimum before Linux is usable for this kind of thing

The problem is not getting it to run on linux, but which version of linux/kernel/drivers/hardware to support.

where i work we have some linux machines that have very strict
requirements as to which version of linux to run, and which hardware
to run it on, otherwise we dont get any support from the software
vendors.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:44 pm

PurpleHaze wrote:
rhythminmind wrote:Ardour is nice for audio but like i said people should check these out

http://www.energy-xt.com/ - Great DAW Midi&Audio - Simular to Live & tracktion

http://ardour.org/ - Great audio editor / mixer - Protools & Samplitude

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - great drum machine

http://ubuntustudio.org/ - Multimedia Linux OS Disto. Comes with just about everything Preinstalled & setup.

http://wired.epitech.net/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=29
- Reason type of thing
kool is it me, but ubuntustudio.org is not working for me.

the official ubuntu studio site is down atm, but you can easily install it without their release anyways. just add some repositories, update, apt-get the ubuntu studio packages and away ye go!

http://www.ubustu.com

do note though that the first part where he talks about adding the repositories, it says "sudo su -c bla bla bla..", didnt work for me.

what you do then is to just copy the source addres here:
deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio feisty main

-->System-->Administration--->Software Sources-->Thirparty software tab, add the address, click close and you will get an error message. dont worry. continue with the article.

enjoy.