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icedsushi wrote:

tanawana wrote:I upgraded to a Roland Fantom so I'm sellin' my JV-1080

Why do you consider the Fantom an upgrade? Aren't you going to miss the JV's sounds?

Or is it that you're looking for more "modern" sounds?

Hmmm, good point there if you look at it that way - I really meant upgrade in the terms of price difference though mainly.

+1 for 1080. = Bread and Butta.

You have no idea how many hits use that box.

tanawana wrote:

icedsushi wrote:

tanawana wrote:I upgraded to a Roland Fantom so I'm sellin' my JV-1080

Why do you consider the Fantom an upgrade? Aren't you going to miss the JV's sounds?

Or is it that you're looking for more "modern" sounds?

Hmmm, good point there if you look at it that way - I really meant upgrade in the terms of price difference though mainly.

So what do you mean by price difference? Because it costs more, it must be an upgrade?!

ChiDJ wrote:+1 for 1080. = Bread and Butta.

You have no idea how many hits use that box.

Cool, yeah in my research I've been finding it's a true classic piece. I guess the discussion is that people seem to be divided down the middle whether the xv, fantom, etc are an "upgrade" from the jv. In other words, basically the same thing but with more features and additional sounds...

Without having experience playing the jv yet and knowing the quality of roland's (sampling) gear, post D-50, my instincts tells me that the answer to that is a resounding "no".

icedsushi wrote:

tanawana wrote:

icedsushi wrote: Why do you consider the Fantom an upgrade? Aren't you going to miss the JV's sounds?

Or is it that you're looking for more "modern" sounds?

Hmmm, good point there if you look at it that way - I really meant upgrade in the terms of price difference though mainly.

So what do you mean by price difference? Because it costs more, it must be an upgrade?!

Damn, I should have sent things out for a proof edit first.

I didn't give it much more thought. It was just a quick reply with a quick comment about selling my other Roland. Obviously they are both great pieces with separate strong and weak points. It was an afterthought mentioning being an upgrade due to the price difference. I suppose I can go back and edit to put anyone's mind at rest.

1080 has it's own distinct "sound" that is not captured in the later models.

Just got my JV-2080 from ebay today. After playing with it for only the first 10 minutes, I could tell immediately without a doubt, this is exactly what I wanted.

love it

icedsushi wrote:No I haven't. I'll check it out. But I got a dumb question.

I've never understood...How do you use soundfonts?

http://www.ableton.com/pages/sampler/sh ... ltisampler

Nice. Thanks for the tip! I'm still on Live 5. Another reason to start using 6 with sampler.

icedsushi wrote:Nice. Thanks for the tip! I'm still on Live 5. Another reason to start using 6 with sampler.

You can use soundfonts right now with the apple dls music device. It comes with every mac.


have a look here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0



.lm.

leisuremuffin wrote:

icedsushi wrote:Nice. Thanks for the tip! I'm still on Live 5. Another reason to start using 6 with sampler.

You can use soundfonts right now with the apple dls music device. It comes with every mac.


have a look here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0



.lm.

Nice one, never knew that.

The bundled Apple AUs really should be considered more of a feature of OS X, they don't seem to get a lot of attention...

If you're looking for 80's sounding pseudo synths, use 80's sound modules

Great ones are

Yamaha TG77 - rackmount SY77, a killer synth that took the best of the FM and AWM synthesis and combined it with decent MIDI capabilities for the time and a reasonable GUI (definately easier to program for FM than a DX7)

Korg M1r - rackmount of the best selling synth of all time, as used in almost every recording ever from 1988 - 1993. Plus the M1 piano was THE piano sound for house throughout this period (this doesn't mean good sound, just the de facto fake piano of the era)

Roland D550 - rackmount D50

Roland MKS-70 - rackmount Jupiter 10, great MIDI features for the time, not the easiest to program but capable of great Juno/Jupiter analog sounds

TX81z - DX7 sound module, cheap as chips on ebay, limited range of FM sounds but definately some classics that are recognizable from the 1984-1988 pre Korg M1 era.