music theory boffins - chord progressions and right chords

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:50 pm

heh,
modulations chapter from that half-decent book I linked earlier

http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Page ... /6_12.html

one of the good points he mentions is establishing the original key very firmly before you go zooming off to the new one. Otherwise it can be very unstable sounding and annoying to the 99% of the population who don't like be-bop Jazz , the remaining 1% of the population are twiddly fingered musicians who think uncertain tonal centres are really hep, daddio.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:08 pm

most commercial songs stick with the one key right?

i.e the verses are tension building progressions and choruses are resolves i.e. the famous progressions we know.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:13 pm

another good one is Db7 (tri-tone sub for G7) - then your bassline can walk down chromatically

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:17 pm

sweetjesus wrote:most commercial songs stick with the one key right?

i.e the verses are tension building progressions and choruses are resolves i.e. the famous progressions we know.

examples of songs with modulations

http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Page ... /6_14.html

I would say 'pop' and 'dance' these days don't really do much modulating, but in the case of pop it's not a necessity - for dance-floor stuff I prefer stuff that stays in the same key myself.

but it depends if you want to be a cut above the rest with the old songwriting
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_8mVu81qc

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:19 am

ok my first composition (production sux so far) after having soaked some of this stuff in.. www.fridge.net.au/audio/theforum.mp3

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:34 am

Angstrom wrote:but it depends if you want to be a cut above the rest with the old songwriting
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_8mVu81qc

I'm soo glad stuff like that is archived for open public consumption.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3UlQVhMAbwg <--- otis - Try A Little Tenderness Live

SJ - so notes and theory are making sense? check the scale plug in to 'lock' the keyboard into specific scales/keys, once the big picture of theory makes sense you can cheat on playing specific notes with the scale plug in, no matter what key you hit it's in tune. the toon sounds cohesive and all that, on top of all this you have the ears, have fun!